TPTK on monotone flop

[vveen]

Saw the Villain reraise a couple more times before, never went to a showdown, no further reads.

BB $92.59.
HERO $167.29.

Hero: Ahttp://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/diamond.gif Khttp://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/heart.gif


Pre-flop:
UTG Folds.
HERO Raises $2.00.
BUTTON Folds.
SB Folds.
BB Calls $1.50.


Flop (8http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif Khttp://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif 3http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif :
BB Checks.
HERO Raises $4.25.
BB Calls $4.25.


Turn (8http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif Khttp://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif 3http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif 7http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/spade.gif :
BB checks.
HERO Bets $10.00.
BB Raises $20.00.
HERO Calls $10.00.


River (8http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif Khttp://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif 3http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/club.gif 7http://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/spade.gif Qhttp://ch.tudelft.nl/~alexander/everest/diamond.gif :
BB Bets $30.00.
HERO ???

That turn call isn't a beauty I suppose. I was lost in this hand, what should my line be?

(added stack sizes)

[ChipStorm]

This looks like an NL50 table, in which case your pfr is fine.

You're trying to balance charging for the draw with pot control. On the flop it's a clear lead. The fact that he flat called flop points toward flush or draw, but still much more likely a lone /images/graemlins/club.gif drawing, so bet is fine.

But when he checkraises, you're toast. It's a minraise and you're getting 4:1 direct to call, but you have few outs if behind, and you are. There's no point in calling to see a river if there's no card that can make you good against a big part of his range. So -- vs. an unknown or someone who hasn't gotten out of line -- dump it to the turn raise.

[ticks]

A thing to consider:
When he checkraises the turn, he will almost always bet the river.
This is what Sklansky & Miller calls 'the hammer of future bets'.
It can be tempting to look at the mincheckraise in isolation,
'it is only 10$ more, he is giving me great odds'.
But odds for what?
Villain is telling you he can beat one pair, and withouth a read you are forced to belive him.
You are drawing to four outs at best (the A/images/graemlins/club.gif is dirty),
and often you are drawing dead.

Folding turn is fine without a better read.

[dedmoney]

Turn, i'd bet half the pot. so about 7 or 8. Chances are he's drawing, but if he's got a made hand, you aren't pushing him off it.

I personally would drop to the cr on the turn. Without reads, it's tougher to say, but even if you're getting semibluffed, he's still got a crapload of outs if he has a club, and pair. I'd say there's probably a 25% chance you're ahead and even if you are, it's thin with the potenial draws out there.

One thing I learned real quick going from limit to nl is to stop going broke with tptk and stop overvaluing overpairs.

[gimmetheloot]

OP, check flop, or check turn...Fold river.
protecting your stack here is worth much more than protecting your hand.

[EscapePlan9]

Dump to the turn raise. c/c then c/min-raise often means 2-pr or better. This is a very common donkey line.

[wingchunflush]

Fold to the turn raise