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11-20-2006, 01:55 AM
I'm thinking of getting involved in a network marketing system but am not sure if the scheme in general is shady. Here's how the payment plan works: (there is no product, only monetary transactions of $3500 which the invitee pays to the invitor (there are other smaller payments possible but for simplification we can say only $3500 transactions take place and it doesn't change the general layout or the grid.))
Okay first off, picture a standard x and y chart with a center point at zero (four quadrants). Our grid of potential invitees which is potential $ will include the entire lower right quadrant (arbitrary but just picture it) with you being at the center point of the axis. Got it?
Okay now first, before you are even allowed onto the zero point in the chart, you have to pay the person who invited you, $3500, simple. That is step one. Step two is to gain access to the grid of potential money/invitees (lower right quadrant, so as to basically be able to play the game, make your own money). In order to do this, to get access to the grid of potential money/invitees, you have to become qualified. To become qualified you must invite one person to plug into the system, which means basically they take your step 1, pay $3500, only this $3500 doesn't go to you, it goes to the person who invited you, for this first time. This is like an initiation fee. You work one time for the person who invited you, and then you are able to be off on your own, paying nothing more ever and doing no more work for free. Follow so far? It's easier now, I'll come back to the qualifier and tighten it up in a minute.
Okay, now you are on the grid at zero point (paid $3500 to your invitor) and you are qualified (signed up one person who has paid your invitor, through your work) which means you can start creating your own 'receiving lines'. Here's how the receiving lines work:
My name is Cow, I am at the center of the grid and have been qualified, I now invite David S., who pays me $3500. For a visual idea, picture David S. at the point of (1, -1) on the grid, in the lower right quadrant of course. Now David S. needs to be qualified so he signs up his buddy Mason. This is his qualifier, and Mason's money goes through David, to me, because just as I incurred this 'loss', David's first invitee is like his initiation cost for joining the club, and David's compensation is that he is now out on his own, owing nothing more forever. Visually place Mason at value (1, -2) on the grid. Of course now Mason has paid his fee, which goes to me, to get on the chart and now he needs to become qualified to get out on his own. So Mason signs up his buddy, MidGe, who simulates the same process, becoming qualified, and the money his qualifier enlists, goes to me again. MidGe is at value (1, -3) on the chart and the process repeats itself down the y axis to infinity, each time the money going to me. That is receiving line #1 for me. Do you see how this process of each new person having to become 'qualified' keeps the cycle going?
Now I invite another person to join. This person is the beginning of receiving line #2, (2, -1), (2, -2) etc. . . and the same process occurs, where I make money off the qualifying process, to infinity, both ways, x, and y, or until someone in the chain pays the initial $3500 but then bones out and doesn't qualify.
Okay to round out the recieving line thing. . basically you were in one of your invitor's receiving line, and by signing up your qualifier, you kept the qualifier compensation perpetuating for your invitor. Now, once you're out on your own, other people essentially do the same thing for you. . . got it? By you doing that one 'work for free', initiator, pro bono work, you made it possible for your invitor to have a chance at an infinite income stream.
Sounds like a pretty powerful payment system to me, but my roomie, who's a pretty smart guy said it's flawed. He couldn't explain how and gave up and went bed so I thought I'd post and see what you guys thought. Theoretically, regardless of how difficult, or easy, it may be to get people to fork over $3500 as a 'gift' (no taxes), does this plan work as stated? I think it's the qualifier process that makes it work and I think there's a mathmatical equation to explain it but I can't figure it out.
My other difficulty with this is that it might be shady. My roomate also called it a zero-sum game, my gain is someone's loss so somebody's always going to lose. But what if the train keeps going? People die and people are born and theoretically couldn't the process continue so long as there is interest?
Thank you so much for anyone taking the time to get this far and if you respond . . . I'll make you a millionaire!! Hah no I thank you very much for any feedback. Sincerely, Cow.
P.S. Well hey if you are interested I can give you the website, I think a network marketing thing in the poker community could dominate. Alright thanks again.
Okay first off, picture a standard x and y chart with a center point at zero (four quadrants). Our grid of potential invitees which is potential $ will include the entire lower right quadrant (arbitrary but just picture it) with you being at the center point of the axis. Got it?
Okay now first, before you are even allowed onto the zero point in the chart, you have to pay the person who invited you, $3500, simple. That is step one. Step two is to gain access to the grid of potential money/invitees (lower right quadrant, so as to basically be able to play the game, make your own money). In order to do this, to get access to the grid of potential money/invitees, you have to become qualified. To become qualified you must invite one person to plug into the system, which means basically they take your step 1, pay $3500, only this $3500 doesn't go to you, it goes to the person who invited you, for this first time. This is like an initiation fee. You work one time for the person who invited you, and then you are able to be off on your own, paying nothing more ever and doing no more work for free. Follow so far? It's easier now, I'll come back to the qualifier and tighten it up in a minute.
Okay, now you are on the grid at zero point (paid $3500 to your invitor) and you are qualified (signed up one person who has paid your invitor, through your work) which means you can start creating your own 'receiving lines'. Here's how the receiving lines work:
My name is Cow, I am at the center of the grid and have been qualified, I now invite David S., who pays me $3500. For a visual idea, picture David S. at the point of (1, -1) on the grid, in the lower right quadrant of course. Now David S. needs to be qualified so he signs up his buddy Mason. This is his qualifier, and Mason's money goes through David, to me, because just as I incurred this 'loss', David's first invitee is like his initiation cost for joining the club, and David's compensation is that he is now out on his own, owing nothing more forever. Visually place Mason at value (1, -2) on the grid. Of course now Mason has paid his fee, which goes to me, to get on the chart and now he needs to become qualified to get out on his own. So Mason signs up his buddy, MidGe, who simulates the same process, becoming qualified, and the money his qualifier enlists, goes to me again. MidGe is at value (1, -3) on the chart and the process repeats itself down the y axis to infinity, each time the money going to me. That is receiving line #1 for me. Do you see how this process of each new person having to become 'qualified' keeps the cycle going?
Now I invite another person to join. This person is the beginning of receiving line #2, (2, -1), (2, -2) etc. . . and the same process occurs, where I make money off the qualifying process, to infinity, both ways, x, and y, or until someone in the chain pays the initial $3500 but then bones out and doesn't qualify.
Okay to round out the recieving line thing. . basically you were in one of your invitor's receiving line, and by signing up your qualifier, you kept the qualifier compensation perpetuating for your invitor. Now, once you're out on your own, other people essentially do the same thing for you. . . got it? By you doing that one 'work for free', initiator, pro bono work, you made it possible for your invitor to have a chance at an infinite income stream.
Sounds like a pretty powerful payment system to me, but my roomie, who's a pretty smart guy said it's flawed. He couldn't explain how and gave up and went bed so I thought I'd post and see what you guys thought. Theoretically, regardless of how difficult, or easy, it may be to get people to fork over $3500 as a 'gift' (no taxes), does this plan work as stated? I think it's the qualifier process that makes it work and I think there's a mathmatical equation to explain it but I can't figure it out.
My other difficulty with this is that it might be shady. My roomate also called it a zero-sum game, my gain is someone's loss so somebody's always going to lose. But what if the train keeps going? People die and people are born and theoretically couldn't the process continue so long as there is interest?
Thank you so much for anyone taking the time to get this far and if you respond . . . I'll make you a millionaire!! Hah no I thank you very much for any feedback. Sincerely, Cow.
P.S. Well hey if you are interested I can give you the website, I think a network marketing thing in the poker community could dominate. Alright thanks again.