Aces postflop play [Archive] - Two Plus Two Newer Archives

IsaacAsimov

11-18-2006, 04:35 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($8.70)
BB ($10.95)
UTG ($7.05)
UTG+1 ($13.40)
Hero ($11.90)
MP2 ($6.50)
MP3 ($1.85)
CO ($9.20)
Button ($8.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.4, 3 folds, Button calls $0.40, 2 folds.

Flop: ($0.95) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $1, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($4.95) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.9, Hero calls $0.90.

River: ($6.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.1 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.85

I have the feeling I should have reraised the Flop or the Turn. I think I may have given away this pot with passiveness.

Grunch

11-18-2006, 04:38 PM

Don't bet-call the flop with the intention of check-calling the turn. Re-raise the flop a lot or stop-n-go the turn.

Panthro

11-18-2006, 04:39 PM

Ick, either 3-bet the flop OR call the flop minraise with the intention of check-raising all in on the turn.

Dennisa

11-18-2006, 04:46 PM

99, 76,45,44,55 crush you. Hands that could play this way are that you are ahead of are A9, 9x, 66,77,tt-kk. Other than KK, I can see all most of the range playing the way they did. You of course crush any 2 clubs. I think I end up paying this one off at this level. A read may of helped, VPIP of less than 22%, I would be concerned, over 40% its an insta call. Bottom line is you are getting 2-1 on this call, if you loose rinse and reload.

IsaacAsimov

11-18-2006, 05:00 PM

I didn't feel I was ahead after all the cards where out. Calling this would mean that I expect to be ahead every third time right? Thus a River Call seems like -EV to me (especially without reads).

wslee00

11-18-2006, 06:01 PM

you shoulda been all-in before the river.

Redd

11-18-2006, 06:26 PM

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I didn't feel I was ahead after all the cards where out. Calling this would mean that I expect to be ahead every third time right? Thus a River Call seems like -EV to me (especially without reads).

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FWIW, you need to be better like 1 in 3.3 times. As played, I think you're ahead that often on the riv.

mikechops

11-18-2006, 07:38 PM

Have you hear of the stack-a-donk line? It goes like this.

1 .You lead the flop and get raised.
2. Call.
3. You check the turn, he bets.
4. You put him all-in.

You nearly got it right, but missed out on step 4. You are getting called here by TT-KK or A9/K9 or flush draws.

As played, you have to call this river. You have played your hand so weakly that he has every reason to believe you have nothing. He could easily be bluffing with a missed flush draw.

IsaacAsimov

11-18-2006, 10:32 PM

Thx for the tips, I will show more future aggression in a situation like this. I am trying to get used to NL and I think that in some situations I play too much limit style (the call on the flop was weak in Limit though too :P).

Big Poppa Smurf

11-18-2006, 10:33 PM

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Thx for the tips, I will show more future aggression in a situation like this. I am trying to get used to NL and I think that in some situations I play too much limit style (the call on the flop was weak in Limit though too :P).

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you would fold aces on the river here?

Sir Winalot

11-19-2006, 07:38 AM

Shove flop. As playe don flop, c/r the turn AI.