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stsharp413
11-17-2006, 03:15 AM
No real reads on opponent and I just want to know if it's possible at all to get off of this hand right here. All comments appreciated. The check-raise on the turn is a bit worrisome, but also confusing. Is it a set, is it a big draw? I wish I could give you guys more info about the opponent, but this is the first hand at this table (a full ring that has broken for the moment)

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $31.90
UTG+1: $17
CO: $21.40
Button: $33.05
SB: $31.80
Hero: $25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $0.75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif ($4, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($16, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $23.8</font>, Hero ????

Speedlimits
11-17-2006, 03:34 AM
fold you are beat here more than not.

Supwithbates
11-17-2006, 03:35 AM
Hands within a rando villian's range:
8d9d
77, TT
KdJd
AdKd
AdJd
KTs
I think AJ is the least likely holding here, as I don't see him overbet pushing the nuts here.
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

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Board: Td 7d Kc Qc
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) tie (%)
Hand 1: 76.0227 % 75.68% 00.34% { TT, 77, AdKd, AdJd, KdJd, KTs }
Hand 2: 23.9773 % 23.64% 00.34% { AA }

Hero Folds
What single pair hand is he doing this with?
I may be a nit but I don't see him playing this hand this way with many holdings you beat

martijn
11-17-2006, 04:11 AM
I'dd make a potbet on the flop, he may see you as weak and try make a play here.

DeuceSeven
11-17-2006, 04:20 AM
I think you're beat enough to fold here, even with a read here, I might still lay this down. Given no reads, it's a pukey laydown, but I'm folding here.

demon102
11-17-2006, 10:17 AM
Turn hes got u beat more times than not, with that flop u gotta put a lot of money in there its very drawy and a lot of turn cards can hurt u so reraise big on the flop.

Check_The_Nuts
11-17-2006, 11:04 AM
I'd call the turn and expect to be ahead of his draws enough to counter the times he has a set/2pair.

Rough spot all the same.

stsharp413
11-17-2006, 03:46 PM
This is what I figured. I just wanted to see a bit of reasoning for the fold.

I was actually a bit deceptive with this post, because I actually manipulated the hand history to show my opponent's cards because I wanted a view from his seat.

In reality I held 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif7 /images/graemlins/club.gif and the player with aces called my bet on the turn. I just wanted to see if anyone else would have been able to get away from the hand as sick as it is to fold.

I knew he'd bet on the flop which is why I checked it to him despite the drawy board, and when called my raise, I had a feeling he was on a hand he wasn't going to laydown, hence the shove on the turn.

Obviously. in reality, there's nothing he could have done to push me off of my hand. But when I figured out he had aces, I was surprised he didn't fold the turn after a CR on the flop and a huge turn bet.

I'm always curious about people's reasoning for folding aces which is a hard thing to do for a lot of players at this level. Thanks for the input.