kk preflop?

[kwest101]

Alrite simple question here....is it ever correct to fold KK preflop in micro-limits? my friend seems to think if u know he has aces y call...but thats bs if u ask me

[RAHZero]

No. How can you know he has aces? I guess if you're on the button and the action goes raise, reraise, reraise all-in you can probably consider folding, but barring some bizarre scenario, I'm pretty much never folding KK PF at uNL.

[gir]

Hell, even in that scenario...unless the players reraising and pushing are nits...

[gir]

Although, if your opponent raises less than 2%, and you've been playing with him for over an hour, that's the situation you consider the toss. The other one screams 'jackpot'!

[kwest101]

ya thanks... I just think at these limits the donks could show u any 2 cards...so y would u possibly fold kings to them.....even if u are raised and reraised and such

[Epple]

My experience at these levels is you will see a lot of trash being played preflop.

[kwest101]

PokerStars Game #7033785752: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2006/11/15 - 10:15:57 (ET)
Table 'Dorado V' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: p3 ($23.90 in chips)
Seat 2: p4($22.50 in chips)
Seat 3: p5 ($29.75 in chips)
Seat 4: p6 ($25.45 in chips)
Seat 5: button($17 in chips)
Seat 6: villan($13.95 in chips)
Seat 7:hero ($18.70 in chips)
Seat 8: utg($13.95 in chips)
Seat 9: p2 ($14.75 in chips)
villan: posts small blind $0.10
hero: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hero [Kc Kh]
p1: folds
p2: folds
p3: folds
p4: raises $0.50 to $0.75
p5: folds
p6: folds
p7: folds
villan: raises $0.75 to $1.50
hero: raises $2.50 to $4
p9: raises $8 to $12


alrite here is the hand...stupid right?

[jdefoe]

Ok, I was the player with KK in this hand, and I know people on the forums don't like discussing folding KK pf and i know it's probably -EV in the long run. But...saying that, villan was tight and seemed to be a decent player. the $8 re-reraise was the thing that threw me off. Why didn't he just push? I think it's because he wanted me in the hand, so I decided to lay it down. I also heard the PPT announcer say that the 4th raise was always aces...but, i don't think this applies to the micros

edit: the other player that initially reraised that laughed in the chat said he had QQ and folded when the hand ended, and since I hold KK, the chances of villan holding AK is reduced. So, that's another thing i considered

[carnivalhobo]

folding kings against a shortstack at 25nl makes raptor jesus want to stab you

[kwest101]

how does the qq factor in if he told u he had it after the hnad was over lol?

[jdefoe]

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how does the qq factor in if he told u he had it after the hnad was over lol?

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well it tells me after the hand that the other guy didnt have queens