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TyFuji
11-15-2006, 06:24 AM
Hand 1: Villain is 16/11 over 60ish hands.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
3 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Button: $36.85
Hero: $25.35
BB: $25.25

Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif
Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $3.5</font>, Hero calls $2.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $4.5)</font>.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($7, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $14</font>, Hero ????

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Hand 2: Villain is an obscene 88/20/2.5 over 60 hands... This one is much harder for me as his range is quite large.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $28.25
UTG+1: $40.90
CO: $27.90
Button: $25.40
SB: $72.05
BB: $10.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $1.75</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $0.75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $3)</font>.

Flop: 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3.75, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $8</font>, Hero ????

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These hands where he could either have overs or an OP are tough for me. What should I do in these hands with QQ-99 in place of the TT? This is a big hole in my game!

MattsTheMan
11-15-2006, 08:01 AM
Hand 1:
I fold here I dont know where I stand with TT and its too marginal to know.

Hand 2: I call to reevaluate on turn If a overcard hits I fold I would try to see so cheap showdown as possible if anybody starts to bet big I Fold.

kolotoure
11-15-2006, 08:07 AM
Hand 1 - He is a nit and nits don't 3-bet wide they only do it with 1010+. Fold

Hand 2 - Villain 3-bets preflop and on the flop so I am folding even LAGs dont 3-bets 2 streets light.

Matt, what are you doing if he pots the turn and after an undercard falls?

MattsTheMan
11-15-2006, 08:15 AM
Kolo, I would fold. I think with only 3$ to call he have to see a turn But if vilain pots turn I fold.

arden street
11-15-2006, 09:24 AM
*grunch*

i think i would fold the first hand. looks like you'll be playing for stacks otherwise, and tight villian has shown alot of strength pre and post flop.

i guess it would make it clearer for yourself if you bet more on the flop. then when/if he fires back we really have to give him credit and fold.

2nd hand a read would help here for sure! is he a compulsive bluffer like me thinking that it's only a matter of time and big bets and he can get you to fold? (if only we had a limitless bankroll and limitless streets!)

probably reraise flop more here too -- pot size would be raise to $9.25 i think. then like the first hand if he doesn't quit you probably have to back off and fold.

tricky spots for sure! you've got a pretty good hand yet probably not worth playing for stacks with.

Sir Winalot
11-15-2006, 11:33 AM
Hand 1 I fold.

Hand 2 your flop raise sucks. Make it at least 8. As played his minraising just screams of a monter, I fold.