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TyFuji
11-15-2006, 06:02 AM
Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $42
CO: $24.95
Button: $24.35
SB: $57.60
Hero: $31.20

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif 2/images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls $0.25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.35)</font>, CO folds, Button calls $0.25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.6)</font>, SB calls $0.15 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.85)</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif 6/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif ($1, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG folds, Button calls $0.75 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.75)</font>, SB folds.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($2.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, Button calls $2 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $4.5)</font>.

River: 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($6.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $12.25</font>, Hero ??? <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $22.75)</font>.

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I have no clue what to put him on here. Would he slowplay a boat this far? I think this is a fold but I'm not sure. Thoughts?

carnivalhobo
11-15-2006, 06:10 AM
im folding this never, at 25nl he has a bare K plenty often to make this a call.

arden street
11-15-2006, 06:29 AM
*grunch*

against a maniac or went-to-showdown 35% guy a call would be the go i guess.

it's possible he's not giving you credit for anything -- thinking you're flop and turn are a cbet and 2nd barrel (is your image loose aggro?). i guess neither a fold or call could be faulted too much. fold to a nit, call a loose player?

SixT4
11-15-2006, 07:35 AM
I agree with arden - I think it's close between calling and folding. Reads on the player or some knowledge of how he plays would make the decision for me.

MattsTheMan
11-15-2006, 07:41 AM
Ya this is tricky. if you would consider him as tight I would fold but if he is loose its easy call. Agree with Arden...

kolotoure
11-15-2006, 07:49 AM
I am folding this because you're hand isn't concealed and I doubt he raises the river with the naked K

pdoran10
11-15-2006, 08:20 AM
if that jack wasnt out there i would call instantly. I think kj is wut he has. i think he would have raised the turn here if he had a naked king for fear of a 4th club falling. He played this well on the turn if he has kj. If it was an insta raise on the river (like within split seconds of it being the villan's turn to act) i would fold.

its sick but id fold this.

avfletch
11-15-2006, 08:59 AM
I don't think betting out a flush draw against 3 other people when second to act is a good plan for the flop.

Spleen
11-15-2006, 09:32 AM
Fold? My first thought was either push or call. He has a K here so often it's worth either IMO. It costs $8 to call to win $22? He has a boat here that often to consider a fold? No way.

FWIW Im a recent limit convert and probably have less xp than others but I like the way you played this hand. I like the aggressive draw, I think it disguises your hand somewhat; although with the board paired it's more risky. A read on villian would be nice though.

Spleen
11-15-2006, 09:38 AM
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*grunch*

against a maniac or went-to-showdown 35% guy a call would be the go i guess.

it's possible he's not giving you credit for anything -- thinking you're flop and turn are a cbet and 2nd barrel (is your image loose aggro?). i guess neither a fold or call could be faulted too much. fold to a nit, call a loose player?

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Hero checked pf, so it wouldn't be a c-bet. I agree that he might be putting you on crap and is trying to push you out of this pot though.

Sir Winalot
11-15-2006, 11:35 AM
I call, it's not even close.