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Insp. Clue!So?
11-14-2006, 11:37 AM
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2006/11/creationist_iconography_can_be.php


A few weeks ago a hurricane struck the little religious community of Bethany, Okla. A number of pious citizens of the little town were killed. Houses were destroyed — homes in which prayer and devotion reigned. A church was demolished. Only a few miles away is the large, wicked city of Oklahoma City — at least we can certainly assume that, from the religious viewpoint, many sinners live in Oklahoma City. Assuming also (which is a great deal riskier assumption) that there is a God, why should he perpetrate this grim and sardonic joke? The sinners in the big city were left untouched. The godly folk in the little nearby village were punished by the evidences of God's wrath. How do the religious people interpret this calamity? Often and often they explain such calamities as flood, fire and storm by saying that God is angry at the sinful people and is warning them or destroying them for their sins. Was the hurricane in Bethany a sign of the love of God for his faithful worshipers? And God missed an even better chance, if there were a God who wished to punish rebels against his majesty and inscrutability. Just a few hundred miles north and east of Bethany, Okla., is Girard — the home of The American Freeman: and The Debunker and The Joseph McCabe Magazine and the Little Blue Books — the center of American free thought where an enormous stream of atheistic literature and. godless modern knowledge pours forth to enlighten the masses. If there were a God directing hurricanes and he wanted to really "get" an uncompromising foe, whom he has no chance of persuading in the ordinary way, it would have been a devastating stroke for him to send his howling punitive blasts through the town of Girard. It would be a more remarkable suggestion of the avenging act of a God if only the Haldeman-Julius plant were destroyed and the rest of the town left unhurt — and, as good neighbors, we shouldn't wish the Christian and respectable, people of Girard nor those who are respectable and not so Christian nor those who are Christian and not exactly respectable to suffer from our proximity and our propaganda of atheism. Is God a joker? No — let us whisper it — the joke is that there is no God. Hurricanes come upon the just and the unjust, the pious and the impious.

[E. Haldeman-Julius, "The Meaning Of Atheism"]

KUJustin
11-15-2006, 06:26 AM
I started skimming this not very far in, but it sounds like it's based on the "prosperity gospel." Basically, the idea that if you are "righteous" you'll be treated well here on earth.

The Bible promises a lot of things to those with great faith, but a lack of hardship is definitely not one of them.

surftheiop
11-15-2006, 06:39 PM
"He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."

revots33
11-15-2006, 06:43 PM
They are lucky they get to be with god sooner. Same with the tsunami victims.

Lestat
11-15-2006, 07:22 PM
I'm not sure what the significance of such a story is supposed to be.

If the hurricane hit the atheist town instead of the pious town, very few atheists would find this to be convincing. So why should theists find it so just because the opposite happened?

vhawk01
11-15-2006, 08:17 PM
This isnt targeted at most Christians, probably, just the Pat Robertson types. The ones who claim NO got what it deserved and if Dover got hit by a disaster, don't go looking for God's help. You know, the loonies.

arahant
11-15-2006, 09:23 PM
Look, all i know is there an omnipotent deity tossing out disasters. I'm sure he has his reasons. God works in mysterious ways.

I can only assume that these folks were so righteous that god called them back to help out in heaven. Handing out the hors d'oeuvres and such.

Lestat
11-15-2006, 09:29 PM
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This isnt targeted at most Christians, probably, just the Pat Robertson types. The ones who claim NO got what it deserved and if Dover got hit by a disaster, don't go looking for God's help. You know, the loonies.

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I don't understand why that Robertson quote was so outrageous. I mean, it's outrageous to ME, but why would it be outrageous to Christians? Under an intervening God, doesn't everyone get what they deserve?

vhawk01
11-15-2006, 09:44 PM
Because its basically socially unacceptable to gloat over other peoples misery and most Christians can find Bible verses that either support or condemn it, so they can choose from there. Thats just my guess.

CORed
11-18-2006, 10:06 PM
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A few weeks ago a hurricane struck the little religious community of Bethany, Okla.

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A hurricane in Oklahoma? That sounds like a miracle in itself. Perhaps it was actually a tornado.