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Gravy
11-13-2006, 07:07 PM
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UTG ($12.10)
MP ($5.92)
Button ($4.81)
Hero ($10.93)
BB ($15.29)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero...

RAHZero
11-13-2006, 07:11 PM
I voted 4-bet to $1.15, but I'd actually raise a bit more, to either $1.35 or $1.50.

Nologo
11-13-2006, 07:15 PM
Hard to tell without reads, but I go for 4-betting as well.

Gravy
11-13-2006, 10:10 PM
Could the people who picked "shove" please explain, because I was tempted to do this as well.

johnc
11-13-2006, 10:42 PM
This limit, I'm shoving. MP2 seems committed to his hand, a push will probably isolate him, getting you HU which is what you want. You'll often get called by all kinds of garbage.

CrustyFace
11-13-2006, 10:42 PM
I picked shove and this is why.

I don't think raising to 1.15 is going to get you much. With that you are allowing other people to see the flop and although that is justified with limpers i would like to prevent another good hand, possibly AK or QQ from hitting.

I'd rather take down a small pot here.

Dave

TJgniL
11-13-2006, 11:01 PM
At $5NL - Shove, one of them will call. Doesn't 4-betting to $1.15 give UTG odds to call for set value if he has a PP (1:~11)? Would we ever get away from this post flop after 4 - betting it?

Mal_Pais
11-13-2006, 11:32 PM
Given stack sizes, I'm repopping it to $2. I want to get MP's stack in the pot. Preflop or on the flop. UTG can play, too, but he has to pay a bad price.

I don't like pushing here, (UTG and us are somewhat deep, given the level). Its too easy for these guys to get away from their hands.

VorShot
11-14-2006, 12:21 AM
Easy shove at this limit.

With the nuts, you know you're ahead..and since it's low limits, they could call with anything, and since people 3-bet with a pretty tight range (JJ+ and AQ+ normally) there's a good chance you're getting called.

pokerchap
11-14-2006, 12:24 AM
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This limit, I'm shoving. MP2 seems committed to his hand, a push will probably isolate him, getting you HU which is what you want. You'll often get called by all kinds of garbage.

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you will get called by far worse hands.

Big Poppa Smurf
11-14-2006, 12:36 AM
let me lay some knowledge on you:

even otherwise ok players will call with crappy hands once there is an all-in. i don't know why they do it, but they do. take advantage please

eigenvalue
11-14-2006, 06:07 AM
At this level You have to shove, anything else is a mistake!

Sir Winalot
11-14-2006, 06:11 AM
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Could the people who picked "shove" please explain, because I was tempted to do this as well.

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Because of the level. Both of their bets could mean anything, and they'll probably call with any pair, any ace, any.. anything?

Triggerle
11-14-2006, 06:24 AM
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let me lay some knowledge on you:

even otherwise ok players will call with crappy hands once there is an all-in. i don't know why they do it, but they do. take advantage please

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What he says. I've even done it myself and wondered why afterwards. /images/graemlins/blush.gif