NL 25 Hows my line on this one?

[mrpotto]

Again no reads. Lets hear how you would have played this one.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $44.65
CO: $12
Hero: $28.30
SB: $19.70
BB: $10.05

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/kc.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/qh.png
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/2h.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/8h.png http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/jh.png ($3, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/kd.png ($10, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, SB calls.

River: http://www.neildewhurst.com/wp-content/images/classic-cards/ks.png ($50, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $0.7</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $51.4

[degenrat]

why would you reraise this turn? SB has played this hand like a monster. look at the flop betting. sb checks then calls a bet and a raise? then check raises you on the turn?

You are beat here.

[pureklas]

He has check raised you twice indicating that he has a strong hand. Just call the turn. Looks likely that he has a flush.

[Novles]

Raise more on the flop. Check behind on the turn.

[homeslice]

I rasing the flop to $4, checking behind the turn, and calling a weak river bet.

[Bonesy]

You have to raise more on the flop. Lone A /images/graemlins/heart.gif and K /images/graemlins/heart.gif easily have odds to call here. I like the turn bet but that wake up from SB is brutal. You are behind here a ton so raising is pure spew. The question is whether you are drawing dead or not. It looks like he flopped a flush but which one?

[mrpotto]

Thanks all - realized I misplayed this one when he flipped up a set of Jacks to make a boat.

[danny8]

does everyone raise this flop? against unknowns im usually c/f on the flop with 2 callers, its v.likely it hit 1 of them in someway.

I almost always raise small donk bets into me when im the PFR, but i think its v.likely he or sb still to act has a lone A/k/images/graemlins/heart.gif in order to get them to fold your gonna have to double barrel. which im not keen on doing in case he really does have a hand.

If you are going to raise, make it at least $5

am i too weak/tight here?

[Phytopath]

Without the Qh I muck this instantly, but as played with the flop raise just take your free card. Seriously why are you 3 betting the turn here?

[eigenvalue]

With what kind of holding will SB call Your reraise on the flop and reraise You again on the turn? The only holdings I see here are a flush or a set on the flop improving to a FH on the river.

Your reraise on the flop is ridiculos, You don't have the nut flush draw!

Your reraise on the turn is the kind of play like
...
hm, let me think
...

Chrsitmas comes early this year for Your opponents!

[Marshall28]

flop raise i think is atrocious, you should expect villain to 3b3 here A LOT of the time.

personally i think this villain is stupid for not doing so since the board contains a 3 flush.

you dont have a pair and you only have 3rd nut flush draw, there are only 4 cards in the deck that id expect would improve your hand without improving yours (that is unless you arent already drawing dead which is definitely a possibility here)

i like to bet out at a lot of 3 flush boards in general w/ ATC cuz most opponents fold a good amount of time. but in this case your opponent is already betting into you ... to me that indicates he doesnt plan on folding. people in general are very cautious on these types of boards, so exploit it ...

but if u encounter resistance, get away

[mrpotto]

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flop raise i think is atrocious, you should expect villain to 3b3 here A LOT of the time.


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I actually think the raise itself wasn't that bad a play. His bet seemed really weak ($1 into a $3 pot) and I was trying to take the pot down right there. Agreed with those who said I should have reraised $4 or $5. I clearly see that I misplayed the turn and should have took a free one and perhaps make a crying call to a river bet.

[Marshall28]

i noticed someone else thinking a small bet from villain means villain is weak, but these situations are very the same ... heres my only contention....

a small bet implies weakness if the board does not suggest otherwise.

if someone could have flopped a possible monster, they are obviously going to want to bet small in order to keep you in the pot. on a 3 flush board ... this is usually the case.

however, if the flop were J75r i would obviously think that bet meant weakness.

all im trying to say is it depends on the board.