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gir
11-10-2006, 12:39 AM
Villain is 23/3/1.38 after 65 hands.

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Button ($6.75)
Hero ($43.69)
BB ($17.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25.

Flop: ($1) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.25</font>, Hero calls $0.25.

Turn: ($1.50) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $9.9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, BB calls $6.45 (All-In).

River: ($35.85) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $35.85

blackize
11-10-2006, 12:47 AM
Fold to his turn 3 bet. With an aggression of 1.38 and at this level he isn't threebetting you on the turn with anything you beat more than 1% of the time IMO

PietM
11-10-2006, 03:07 AM
Couldn't villain have AJ here, which he slowplayed on the flop?

Vern
11-10-2006, 03:15 AM
Villain has tight stats, he is not three betting the turn after a check raise with TPTK. His raise only left 6.45 behind so he has in essence said he will be going to the felt either here or the river. If he is playing overpairs or TPTK this way we will know soon enough, but I think the call or raise on the turn after he 3bets a check raise is bad, with just bottom 2 pair.

Edit: FWIW, a 3% raiser does not generally raise AJ, even less often out of the BB.

orange
11-10-2006, 03:28 AM
PF is awful. Raise or fold.

You'll see AA/KK here alot. I think this is fine.

Vern
11-10-2006, 03:32 AM
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PF is awful. Raise or fold.

You'll see AA/KK here alot. I think this is fine.

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I missed that in the play, BB would raise a lot more here when the SB just completes. I agree, raise from the SB or fold unless the BB is a specific type that will let you complete very often and then folds a lot post flop.

Wu36
11-10-2006, 03:41 AM
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PF is awful. Raise or fold.

You'll see AA/KK here alot. I think this is fine.

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Seconded on pf.

If for some reason I limp/called out of the sb here, I'm donking this turn ~pot size.

blackize
11-10-2006, 06:54 AM
I guess it's possible that the villain is playing an overpair like this, but I think it is a lot more likely that he has a set here. In 65 hands his AF is tiny and he's 3 betting a turn checkraise here. I think it is much more likely he has JJ or 77 here.

Requin
11-10-2006, 01:44 PM
Yeah I'd usually donk the turn, but you have to get your stack in now I think. PF is obviously bad, but you knew that.