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mtx
11-09-2006, 11:32 PM
<font color="blue"> I was just checking out the VIP.com poker bonus and stumbled upon their casino bonus. </font>

100% New Deposit Bonus – Up to $500 FREE
50% 2 nd Deposit Bonus – Up to $200 FREE
20% Ongoing Reload Bonus – Up to $300 FREE

UP TO $1000 IN FREE BONUS CASH!

To Redeem a Bonus:

* Email support@vip.com with your request for the applicable bonus (New Deposit, 2nd Deposit or Reload); please include your account ID and the amount of your deposit.
* Bonuses must be claimed within 48 hours of the qualifying deposit transaction.
* The bonus will be added to your account promptly.

Bonus Terms &amp; Conditions:

* Management reserves the right to confiscate all winnings if an individual uses bonus funds to play a game that is excluded from any promotion.
* All VIPcasinos bonuses are applicable to download games and new instant play games only (classic instant play games are excluded from bonuses)
* Bonuses are issued for new money only, withdrawing and re-depositing money back into your account will not earn bonuses.
* To view the list of Casino games excluded from this promotion please click here.
* You must wager the total amount deposited (deposit + promotional bonus + deposit fees) 20 times in the casino before cashing-in of the bonus will be allowed (sports/horse wagers, play at VIPpoker and non-applicable casino games are excluded).
* Any cash-in request before the initial deposit is wagered 20 times will result in the bonus being removed.
* In order to claim a bonus you must deposit a minimum of $25 into your VIPcasinos account.
* Bonuses will only be paid up to the applicable maximum ($500 for the New Deposit Bonus, $200 for the 2nd Deposit Bonus and $300 for the Reload Bonus). For example, on the New Deposit Bonus: deposit $50 – get $50 free, deposit $550 – get $500 free.
* For deposits lower than $25 a regular 10% bonus applies.
* You can qualify for the New Deposit and 2nd Deposit Bonuses only once, however the Reload Bonus is ongoing, including and after the third deposit.
* If your account shows a lifetime profit (Deposits - withdrawals -account balance = any negative number), you will not be eligible for a reload bonus. Only those accounts that currently have a positive lifetime number are eligible for a reload bonus.
* To qualify for the second bonus and reload bonus you must have a zero balance in your account. We have adopted this rule to prevent players from taking advantage of this rule by continuously playing with bonus money.
* Due to continuous severe abuse of promotions by players resident in Denmark, all Danish players are required to wager the total amount deposited (purchase + promotional bonus) 30 times before ANY CASH-IN will be allowed.
* Casino bonuses are not available for players from Israel.
* Equal betting is considered irregular gaming for bonus purposes only.
* Only one account allowable for each household.
* Multiple registrations will be viewed as promotion abuse and will automatically void all related accounts.
* When a withdrawal is made, bonuses will not apply to any deposits made up to 7 days after the withdrawal.
* We will audit suspicious cash-ins before we process them.
* The Casino Management has the right to refuse entry to any player.
* Management will not be obligated to provide a reason for such refusal or be liable for its decision.
* Neither the deposit nor the bonus can be used in the sportsbook or horsebook until the rollover requirement is met. Should sports or horse wagers be made before the rollover requirement is met, we reserve the right to cancel those wagers.
* If you make a withdrawal to VIPpoker prior to reaching the rollover requirements you will forfeit all deposit bonuses
* We will remove bonus credits from the accounts of any member who fails to comply with any of the above Conditions.
* Management reserves the right to alter the Terms and Conditions of this promotion at any point in time.
* Management's decision is final.
* All Internet casino wagers must be placed through the user interface provided by this casino on its Web pages. Any Internet wagering through other means, including the use of a “robot” player, is strictly forbidden. In the event that use of non-approved client software is detected, the Management reserves the right to invalidate all such wagers retroactively, cancel the player's account, or take any other appropriate counteraction.
* Members found using multiple browsers and/or found attempting to manipulate or ascertain information concerning the casino software code will forfeit all winnings and become deactivated as a Company member.

Excluded Casino Games

7 Stud Poker, Aces and Eights, All American Poker, Baccarat, Black Jack, Bonus Deuces Wild, Bonus Poker, Bonus Poker Deluxe, Caribbean 21, Craps, Deuces Wild, Double Jackpot Poker, Double Jackpot Poker, Double Double Jackpot Poker, Double Double Bonus Poker, European Roulette, Face Up 21, Jacks or Better, Joker Poker, Loose Deuces, Match Play 21, Mystery Bonus Poker, Pick’em Poker, Pontoon, Roulette, Sevens Wild, Sic Bo, Super 21 and War.

http://info.vip.com/en/casino/casino_bonuses_1000bonus.htm

<font color="blue">Pai Gow and Three Card Poker aren't included in the list of excluded games, so I'm guessing they can still be played to clear the bonus.....VIP poker is on the Prima Network so their casino site should be reputable... </font>

GooseHinson
11-10-2006, 12:22 AM
No blackjack = no good.

ImsaKidd
11-10-2006, 02:22 AM
Assuming 2.3% HA on 3 card poker, this has $40 EV. Not very worthwhile IMO.

mtx
11-10-2006, 03:11 AM
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Assuming 2.3% HA on 3 card poker, this has $40 EV. Not very worthwhile IMO.

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What about 1.46% on Pai Gow Poker?

$500 - (20 000 * 0.0146 = $292) = +$208 EV

aka23
11-10-2006, 03:28 AM
The house edge on Real Time Gaming Pai Gow is closer to 2.85% That makes it EV- with standard playthrough. If you double up, it's EV+, but not worthwhile in my opinion.