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wake_up

11-09-2006, 11:17 PM

No reads - whats the plan?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Hero ($27.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($37.90)
SB ($13.95)
BB ($23.10)
UTG ($23.90)
UTG+1 ($8.80)
MP1 ($6.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75, Button folds.

Turn: ($8.85) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero ???

CrustyFace

11-09-2006, 11:21 PM

I'd bet again since the flush missed on the turn. Bet $5 or $6.

Jigsaws

11-09-2006, 11:21 PM

Lead again. Call or fold to shove depending on your read.

wake_up

11-09-2006, 11:44 PM

I check-called the turn, and the river was even worse... what now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com (http://www.internettexasholdem.com)

Hero ($27.50)
CO ($35.65)
Button ($37.90)
SB ($13.95)
BB ($23.10)
UTG ($23.90)
UTG+1 ($8.80)
MP1 ($6.75)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds.

Flop: ($3.35) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75, Button folds.

Turn: ($8.85) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4.

River: ($16.85) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5

iraise50

11-09-2006, 11:49 PM

I call, your lead out on the flop, followed by a c/c, he's betting any scare card. I call it, you win more than 25% of the time.

CrustyFace

11-09-2006, 11:50 PM

The river is irrelevant at this point because you didnt play the turn correctly. I would still call and pay off a full house.

wake_up

11-09-2006, 11:53 PM

You say I didn't play the turn correctly yet you a worried about a FH. Do you bet/fold the turn?

wake_up

11-10-2006, 12:34 AM

I called he showed AQ and MHIG.

I just can't find anyway to get any more money in on this board though... the reaons I c/c'ed the turn is because be could easily bluff me off it if I bet.

Khaos4k

11-10-2006, 01:28 AM

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I called he showed AQ and MHIG.

I just can't find anyway to get any more money in on this board though... the reaons I c/c'ed the turn is because be could easily bluff me off it if I bet.

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He could, but since this is NL25 he probably won't. Baluga's Theorem and such. You have to protect against the flush draw, and get value for you're straight. Lead out.

orange

11-10-2006, 03:43 AM

$7 on the turn. T didn't change too much.

CrustyFace

11-10-2006, 09:33 AM

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You say I didn't play the turn correctly yet you a worried about a FH. Do you bet/fold the turn?

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bet bet bet

ChipStorm

11-10-2006, 10:08 AM

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$7 on the turn. T didn't change too much.

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Me too. Also lead flop for full pot, there are lots of cards you don't want to see on the turn.

Chances of villain having boated on the turn are pretty slim. If you eliminate AA/QQ from preflop action, he's down to AT/QT for the boat.

And he has to fear the possibility of you having boated, so if you lead turn for close to full pot and are raised big, you can probably give it up.

But by leading you price draws and get value from AQ/JTs, etc.

ghostface

11-10-2006, 10:46 AM

This is an auto-bet on the turn for me. He has been nothing but passive and you are seeing monsters.