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Sorcerer808
11-09-2006, 02:44 PM
No reads

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($40)
UTG ($23.90)
MP ($46.95)
Hero ($49.25)
Button ($41.25)
SB ($22.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, Button calls $2.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($8.25) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.5</font>, Button calls $5.50, UTG folds.

Turn: ($19.25) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($19.25) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)

Sir Winalot
11-09-2006, 02:51 PM
I would c/c turn. I lead river for 12-15.

Imrahil
11-09-2006, 02:52 PM
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I would c/c turn. I lead river for 12-15.

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Pavan
11-09-2006, 03:11 PM
I bet this turn all day and abuse him for playing A-rag

Jay2u
11-09-2006, 03:15 PM
I mostly play FR, so my handranges could be too tight, but...

When I dont have any reads, I think what I would do/see in villains position.
First I see a raise to 5BB =&gt; Hero has a good hand like AJ+ and TT+, maybe KQs
As villain, I would call with a pp, ATs+, AJo+ and high SC's.

Then the flop comes and there's an ace. Hero bets so he has one or pretends to have one. Me, as villain, wouldnt float without reads, so I need a set or the ATs+, AJo+.
With a set, I would probably raise on the flop or bet at the turn.
In other words: villain has an ace (90%).

On the turn, the Q comes and hero checks. If villain hit the Q (AQ), he probably would have bet out. As played, he didnt: villain probably has ATs or AJ.

The river is a complete blank. Hero hasnt improved, so a check isnt bad: villain will probably call a descent sized bet. Hero can ask himself: 'what size bet would I call?' and bet a bit less than that amount, hoping for the best.

J

orange
11-09-2006, 03:19 PM
I would value bet river typically. Turn c/c plan is fine.

Sorcerer808
11-09-2006, 03:19 PM
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I bet this turn all day and abuse him for playing A-rag

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what if you bet, he calls then you check river he bets strong? or what if you bet, he raises turn?? IMO this is a good opportunity to keep the pot small, am I missing some value?

Pavan
11-09-2006, 03:19 PM
Jay,
You are giving villian entirely too much credit.

ATrain
11-09-2006, 03:24 PM
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Jay,
You are giving villian entirely too much credit.

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And the raising range you are giving to hero is way to small for 6-max.

Jay2u
11-09-2006, 03:26 PM
Quote Pavan:
Jay,
You are giving villian entirely too much credit.
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For handrange or thinking?

If handranges: I play FR mostly, so the handranges must be adapted to 6max.

If thinking: maybe you're right. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

The point was: If I don't have any reads, I assume villain thinks like me.

Pavan
11-09-2006, 03:50 PM
both.

If I dont have any reads, I assume donk until proven otherwise (at 50NL 6-max)

ronitonline
11-09-2006, 04:18 PM
I would play just as you did, but I would probably bet that river.
I like the check on the turn.
Nice hand.

Shaddux
11-09-2006, 05:25 PM
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I would c/c turn. I lead river for 12-15.

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