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FiReSiStAnT
11-08-2006, 11:06 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($22.85)
FiReSiStAnT ($27.15)
UTG ($17.15)
MP ($4.15)
CO ($27.30)
Button ($4.65)

Preflop: FiReSiStAnT is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">FiReSiStAnT raises to $2.5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4.15</font>, Button calls $3.15, FiReSiStAnT folds.

Flop: ($11.15) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: ($11.15) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($11.15) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $11.15

Phenomenon
11-08-2006, 11:11 PM
There's missing info here, but you folded 9s preflop to his reraise? I'm confused, from the info given it looks like a bad fold.

Reef
11-08-2006, 11:30 PM
only had to call $1.65 more and you folded? yuck, you had implied set odds.

wazz
11-09-2006, 01:02 AM
You would have hit, so obv a bad fold.

NL Rounder
11-09-2006, 03:13 AM
Move this to Micro Stakes NL.

No Fizzle
11-09-2006, 04:54 PM
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You would have hit, so obv a bad fold.

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Negatory! The analysis here is not results-oriented. He had more than enough odds to call for an measly $1.65. It was a bad fold, whether he flopped a set or not.

ProdgyProdgy
11-09-2006, 06:36 PM
definitely a bad fold...as some people have already said it was only 1.65 more to call when youd already stuck 2.50 in, plus another player in shoots your pot odds way up. your getting 5.5 to 1 preflop, which is way more than you need if you throw in all your implied odds.

ProdgyProdgy
11-09-2006, 06:39 PM
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You would have hit, so obv a bad fold.

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thats brilliant thinking right there. please, dont waste a post like that.

Small Fry
11-09-2006, 07:17 PM
If you're playing this for value when you hit your set you picked the wrong two opponents. You have almost zero implied odds. MP is all-in preflop and Button has $.50 left. If you wanted to raise you should have just bet enough to put them all in preflop as you were committing them anyways. Bad raise and a bad fold

wazz
11-09-2006, 10:28 PM
So you're saying it would have been a good fold if a 9 hadn't come out?

FiReSiStAnT
11-10-2006, 10:11 AM
yea im so stupid i dont know what i was thinking

d@mn

aight thanks guys

ChipStorm
11-10-2006, 10:36 AM
The pfr to $2.50 is terrible. You're juicing the pot OOP with a mid-pair, a hand you will very likely have to fold; and at the same time you're offering MP and BTN great implied odds to call you.

Flat call, or raise big. I think it's an easy flat call to play for the set.

lacrymosa
11-10-2006, 11:00 AM
not being results orientated, I would say that it is a bad fold. But everyone has pretty much covered that so far.

wazz
11-10-2006, 11:15 AM
I watched st kildas beat you guys about 4 years ago when I was in melbourne. GG

Check_The_Nuts
11-10-2006, 12:50 PM
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If you're playing this for value when you hit your set you picked the wrong two opponents. You have almost zero implied odds. MP is all-in preflop and Button has $.50 left. If you wanted to raise you should have just bet enough to put them all in preflop as you were committing them anyways. Bad raise and a bad fold

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QFT

ProdgyProdgy
11-10-2006, 05:14 PM
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If you're playing this for value when you hit your set you picked the wrong two opponents. You have almost zero implied odds. MP is all-in preflop and Button has $.50 left. If you wanted to raise you should have just bet enough to put them all in preflop as you were committing them anyways. Bad raise and a bad fold

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definitely didnt see he only had .50 left...so that throws out implied odds. but i would still call with the possibility of someone just having ak. again, the pot was huge for such a small raise...

ronitonline
11-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Rule of thumb, call minraises.
I call them out of spite with any decent hand hoping I can outflop the [censored] [censored] piece of [censored] noob who minraised.

Gonso
11-17-2006, 06:55 AM
You were getting almost 7 to 1 there without having to worry about anyone acting after you. Must call.

demon102
11-17-2006, 10:13 AM
fold preflop hes a shortstacker, if it was heads up then I could see getting it all in against villain but as played u might as well transfer the funds to villians account.

Imrahil
11-17-2006, 07:17 PM
Don't re-raise PF unless you're willing to play for the rest of villains small stack, otherwise just call.

Fazz86
11-17-2006, 09:41 PM
Bad fold only because you reraised and then layed down a good hand vs 2 short stacks for a measely 1.65. Either dont re-raise or be ready to get either if not both shortstacks to push.