Put this player on a range (part 1)

[avfletch]

Edit to add: Don't just read everyone else's responses and quote the one you agree with. Answer for yourself first.

$50NL (if it matters to you).

Playing 6max. (sorry for missing this before)

A reasonably solid TAG (18/12) makes it $2 from UTG.

What range of hands do you put him on?

[SnappyJoe]

FR:
JJ+
AQs+
AKo

EDIT: Is it FR or SH?

[netstorm]

KQs+ AQo+, TT+

and is this 6max or full ring ?

And by solid, do you mean he takes advantage of position ? Or does he disregards position completely?

[avfletch]

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KQs+ AQo+, TT+

and is this 6max or full ring ?

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6max, original post updated.

[AmonRaa]

KQ+, AJ+, TT+

[ticks]

full ring or 6max?
FR: JJ+/AK
6max: 77+/AJ+

[Roadstar]

22+, ATs+, AJo+

[Grumbo]

Don't play 6 max myself but would guess TT+, ATs+, AQ+. Might apply more for full ring.

[ActionStan]

88+, AK, AQ, AJs

[n1nj4.br]

22+
ATs
AQo+

[LaMbaL]

Any pair
AKs down to ATs
AKo to AJo
KQs
Some high SC (T9s, 98s)

[sharkbitten]

88+
A8s+
AJo+
KTs+
KJo+
maybe QJs

[Jouster777]

AQs and most AQo, AK (o or s), TT+

[jgunnip]

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Playing 6max. (sorry for missing this before)

A reasonably solid TAG (18/12) makes it $2 from UTG.

What range of hands do you put him on?


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at least 77+, AJ+, KQs as a base
all PP, med+ sc, and AT+ could also be in their range.

I saw a tag open utg A9o yesturday.

[allaboutmyfetti]

22+ AJ+ KQ+, soot'd connectors down to 67

[HotdogPoker]

I would put him at TT+, maybe AQo+?

[danny8]

22-AA, AK, AQ, AJs, QKs, possible AJo and JQs

[kaz2107]

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Edit to add: Don't just read everyone else's responses and quote the one you agree with. Answer for yourself first.

$50NL (if it matters to you).

Playing 6max. (sorry for missing this before)

A reasonably solid TAG (18/12) makes it $2 from UTG.

What range of hands do you put him on?

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87s and 67s, JTs, AJ+, KQs, 22+

[Archon_Wing]

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Edit to add: Don't just read everyone else's responses and quote the one you agree with. Answer for yourself first.

$50NL (if it matters to you).

Playing 6max. (sorry for missing this before)

A reasonably solid TAG (18/12) makes it $2 from UTG.

What range of hands do you put him on?

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Any Pair... AK,AQ, Perhaps JTs+

[ticks]

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87s and 67s, JTs, AJ+, KQs, 22+

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Interesting how you skipped 98s.
You had a read?

[kaz2107]

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87s and 67s, JTs, AJ+, KQs, 22+

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Interesting how you skipped 98s.
You had a read?

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98s sux imo. its straight draws lead to a lot of 2nd best straights thus isnt as valuable.

ex...
hero holds 98s

board is TJ7 rainbow. or JTQ.

both lead to bigger straights that are a big part of the ranges of normal villians calling ranges thus it is much less valuable.

[avfletch]

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87s and 67s, JTs, AJ+, KQs, 22+

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Interesting how you skipped 98s.
You had a read?

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98s sux imo. its straight draws lead to a lot of 2nd best straights thus isnt as valuable.

ex...
hero holds 98s

board is TJ7 rainbow. or JTQ.

both lead to bigger straights that are a big part of the ranges of normal villians calling ranges thus it is much less valuable.

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And this changes the range you put villain on?

[kaz2107]

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87s and 67s, JTs, AJ+, KQs, 22+

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Interesting how you skipped 98s.
You had a read?

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98s sux imo. its straight draws lead to a lot of 2nd best straights thus isnt as valuable.

ex...
hero holds 98s

board is TJ7 rainbow. or JTQ.

both lead to bigger straights that are a big part of the ranges of normal villians calling ranges thus it is much less valuable.

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And this changes the range you put villain on?

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well imo it isnt good enough to raise with if he is an 18 12 player. that is the reason i left it out. if i played 18 12 i deff wouldnt b raising 98s utg.

[snakekilla88]

AA+

[whodatdare]

Any pocket pair, AKos, AKs AQs, AQos

[snakekilla88]

alright seriously though-
22+, A9+

[ben wb]

22+, AQo+, AJs+, KQs

[kokiri]

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Any pocket pair, AKos, AKs AQs, AQos

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what he says, maybe KQs, AJ...

but really, are there really any "18/12 TAG"s out there?

[Badger83]

JJ+
AQs+
AKo

[Perk76]

I think alot of you guys are giving an 18/12 too big a range. I cant even get a session below 20 when I try.

99+,AJ+ I dont even think an 18/12 raises UTG with KQ suited...who knows.

[OneBigRed]

22+, KQs+, AJo+.

[mrpotto]

UTG I'd say
AJs, AQ, AK
77-AA

18 vpip narrows it down a lot IMO

[BungalowBill]

I don't play 6max but I'll give it a crack. 88+, AQ+.

[shpanko]

99+, ATs+, AJo+, KQs

[Grifter]

22+
ATs+
AQo+
KQs

Although they make up a small portion of the range, I don't think we can count out 'shania' type hands like 78s and JTs.

[Dennisa]

AK, QQ+

If he is raising any pair in any position, his pfr will be close to 18. If he is a decent tag, he is far tighter utg, then in CO and the button. He is limping 1/3 of the time, so my guess is JJ- are being limped in UTG and UTG+1. At vpip of 18, I also think he is mucking AJ- hands and most Axs hands from this position.

[chaide]

i do not know what a solid tag means. but it put everyody +88 +AQ

[tojx]

You have to consider that 12% PFR is an average and since the opponent is playing UTG it would be much less.

99+
AJs+
AQo+
KQo

that's roughly half of his average PFR%: 6.3%

[ben wb]

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I think alot of you guys are giving an 18/12 too big a range. I cant even get a session below 20 when I try.

99+,AJ+ I dont even think an 18/12 raises UTG with KQ suited...who knows.

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Think that's too tight as my 6 max stats actually are 18/12 at the moment and I almost always raise KQs UTG, often KQo and QJs too. From UTG my stats are 9/9.

[homeslice]

22+, AQs+

22-AA, KQs, AJs+, AQ+

IMO with 18% Vpip he probably doesn`t raise medium to small SC and Axs UTG. I play pretty much the same and get those stats.