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Wolfram
11-06-2006, 06:46 PM
No real read on villain. Should I call or fold? What's the standard play, and what kind of read do I need to make the other one?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($21.10)
MP ($22.90)
Hero ($26.75)
Button ($30.70)
SB ($5.55)
BB ($24.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3</font>, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($6.10) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.75</font>, Hero calls $3.75.

Turn: ($13.60) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $17.85 (All-In)</font>, Hero???

midwestkc
11-06-2006, 07:43 PM
Call. If he has AA/KK so be it. I'm not folding here for nothing. (I guess he could have JJ too, but still, you've shown no strength since before the flop, and he's playing this with a lot of hands that we beat here.

Also, I'm a limit donk trying to learn NL, but am I the only one that doesnt raise this flop to try to find something out about our hand here?

Oranzith
11-06-2006, 07:46 PM
raising for information is some of the worst advice that has ever crept into NL

midwestkc
11-06-2006, 09:43 PM
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raising for information is some of the worst advice that has ever crept into NL

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Fair enough. So are you saying that he should never raise this hand at any point after the PF raise?

derosnec
11-06-2006, 09:47 PM
this is not AJ/AQ or TT. this is aa/kk, maybe AK, but at 25 nl you are rarely getting reraised pf by AK from my experience