What the New Bill will not do

[Mr_Pathetic]

So I see this about neteller and the big sites like party
pulling out for various reasons with none being in line with that of the legislation. What I mean is the new legislation is supposed to prevent compulsive gamblers from gambling. But it will not and here is why.

I have a friend who is a compulsive gambler donating to the tune of $80,000 in the last two years to sportsbooks and poker. Problem is the new legislation to protect him won't. He cannot use neteller, firepay, etc since he scammed the instacash features for them all. He must only deposit via western union. He must play poker and bet at sites like skybook due to his scamtendencies. So the new law, killing many things we benefit from as winning players, is doing nothing to curb his gambling problems. It is business as usual for him. Since Friday he has went through over $400 in just the few short hours he has had time to play. Every week he deposits anywhere from 250-1000 from big rolls of lotto scratchoffs he steals from his dad's store.

So good job new law. My friend can still click his mouse and lose his house just as if nothing happened. If they wanted to help compulsive gamblers they should have made compulsive behavior illegal and the not vehicles used to carry out the behavior. I fear for my own financial safety.


...Now if I could just remember to run a thorough credit check...

[MiltonFriedman]

Have you called Skybook and told them your friend is a scammer and compulsive gambler ?

Hell, pm me his name and I'll call them.

Otherwise, quit pretending you give a rat'sass about your friend.

[PDX_David]

If you think the new law was passed to help out degenerates with gambling problems. You are sadly mistaken. The US gov't doesn't give two [censored] about your friend or anyone elses gambling problem. What they do care about it keeping the campaign contributions (and whatever additional funds that are given behind closed doors) from Indian tribes and whatever religious nuts coming in. They will say it is to help but it is only to help them keep their jobs.

Plus, it should not be the position of the government to protect your friend or others with gambling problems from themselves by taking freedoms or freedom of choice from the rest of us.

That is the job of you, the so-called "friend". If you really are his friend step up and do something about it. If you take no action then you are not really his friend at all.

[Mr_Pathetic]

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Have you called Skybook and told them your friend is a scammer and compulsive gambler ?

Hell, pm me his name and I'll call them.

Otherwise, quit pretending you give a rat'sass about your friend.

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I don't give a [censored]. And neither will skybook as long as cash coming in western union style. I am just pointing out how this law affects me but not him. If I gave a damn about my friend I would have already contacted his dad who the money has most likely been stolen from. Besides the only thing that will stop him is to hit rock bottom.

[MiltonFriedman]

"I don't give a [censored]" about my friend.

So why should anyone give a censored about you and your complaint ?

Actually, since you do not give a [censored] about your friend, what is the point of your beef anyway ?

[Mr_Pathetic]

My beef is this legislation is hypocritical. He gets to maintain status quo unchanged while the rest of us get to replace party and more then likely neteller sometime in the future. While not a big deal, still a pain. This government and the people who run it are your hypocrits.

[5thStreetHog]

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My beef is this legislation is hypocritical.This government and the people who run it are your hypocrits.

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[Push_Fold]

OP please try and finish your GED program before making another post.

[ChexNFX]

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OP please try and finish your GED program before making another post.

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[MiltonFriedman]

"He gets to maintain status quo unchanged while the rest of us get to replace party and more then likely neteller sometime in the future. While not a big deal, still a pain."

You see the Internet is like a series of tubes.

No one should EVER wonder why folks like Mr. Pathetic end up with representation like Senator Stevens and Frist. Incoherent, non-thinking, ignorant, self-absorbed, lazy elected officials ARE representative of a large segment of the public.

Vote on Tuesday. .... except not you OP.

[Mr_Pathetic]

As far as education goes, I hold a masters which is more education then most of you have. As for voting, I have voted the last eight years that I could everytime and voted Democrat. After reading this forum for awhile and the new law being passed, I was amazed at the number of people who still voted and considered themselves Republicans.

In the end, there will always be people to flame you when you do not make your point clear.

[jackaaron]

The OP wasn't on here to complain about his friend. It was about the law. And, his point is correct. The law doesn't do what the lawmakers are acting like they want it to do which is to save people from hurting themselves.

As far as him helping his friend, be real folks. Do you really think that whatever he does is going to help? As the OP said, his friend will have to hit rock bottom. So he tells the guys dad. So what? The guy will end his relationship with his dad, and move on to whatever source of funding he can find.

I'm just glad none of us have problems like the OP's friend.

Lastly, this forum needs to stop being so nasty. Opinions are one thing. Saying the things you guys do on a CONTINUOUS basis is another.

[Lottery Larry]

"If I gave a damn about my friend "

Why do you call him a "friend", then?

[Lottery Larry]

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My beef is this legislation is hypocritical. He gets to maintain status quo unchanged while the rest of us get to replace party and more then likely neteller sometime in the future. While not a big deal, still a pain. This government and the people who run it are your hypocrits.

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I think you missed an e in your last word.

Also, why do you think the legislation is about compulsive gamblers? All of the [censored] coming out of legislators' mouths doesn't mean anything.

[Mr_Pathetic]

I think you missed an e in your last word.

It happens.

Also, why do you think the legislation is about compulsive gamblers? All of the [censored] coming out of legislators' mouths doesn't mean anything.

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Well this is obvious. Compulsive gamblers are the only ones that click the mouse and lose their house.

My friend got caught this weekend by his family and I confronted him with his deposits since 9/5/2006 and he nearly hit the floor. It's over for him now. If his deposit trend continued then he would be short $50,000 per year. While certainly not the worst seen, this is a small fortune for his family given their current situation.

[MiltonFriedman]

I'm just glad none of us have "friends" like the OP.

[Lottery Larry]

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Also, why do you think the legislation is about compulsive gamblers? All of the [censored] coming out of legislators' mouths doesn't mean anything.

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Well this is obvious. Compulsive gamblers are the only ones that click the mouse and lose their house.

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You're missing my point. I don't think it has anything to do with CGs, really. I think that's just what the politicians use to cover their true motives.