CLUB ON THE PARK RIGGED

[grando]

well not really - but I have lost 17 straight double downs in blackjack switch and counting

my partypoker stress die is taking a beating

[grando]

streak done at 19

down 80 bets in ~300 hands

[mtx]

talking about rigged......

Cryptos = rigged...

90% of the time I raise my bet after a win, I lose... when I don't raise, I win...

And how is it that the dealer gets dealt 7-10 75% of the time while I get 14-16 and bust....

yep its rigged...VIP CASINO + LITTLEWOODS = BS...

[mtx]

Im not even done 20% of the VIP bonus and Im down $50 already...

Dealer keeps getting lucky and pushing me when I have good cards..... I CANT WIN MORE THAN 2 HANDS straight here..

[silvermark]

Monthlies suck in general, they want to make you break even to tilt you and then make you gamble your deposit.

[grando]

BUSTO F THIS SKETCHPAD PLACE

[ivo]

Cryptos are not rigged if u play only for £1

[koolsavas]

[ QUOTE ]
Cryptos are not rigged if u play only for £1

[/ QUOTE ]

are too.

bustoed will hill at 1gbp bets, but i had a wr larger than 500?? was sitting at 70 after 500 and foolishly busted it all clearing the 366 it told me i had left to play for cashability.

bustoed littlewoods, well down 20 pounds with 37% completion. gotta finish that one later.

bustoed the 18x for pontoon at inter at the min $5. granted i made 90% of wr before i zeroed out, but i had 25% of the time a hard 15. and drew a great many 9's to a 13. good times.

-190 in one day. sweetness. now waiting on cashouts to do 32red's 32 gbp with 1000 wr, maybe cherry if i scrounge up the funds, and going back to littlewoods.

does wh's wr carry over when you bust? the account page must have been in error, what kind of 25 pound bonus carries 866 wr (see above b!tch), i mean honestly? but since i kept playing and lost, i'm effed there right? think they'd toss me a comp 10 or 20 to finish off the wr 103 to go or so?

variance, and cryptos, and pontoon, hate me today!

[maniacut]

is anybody having problems with their software? i keep [censored] timing out and it's getting really annoying

[mtx]

add 32red to the rigged list...$64 down to $30 in 100 hands of autoplay.....dealer hits 21 3 times in a row with 4-5 cards when I hit 18, 19, 20.... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

not to mention, i keep busting when i have 12-14...

well, it looks like i finally busted after roughly 600 hands.....i love this BS luck...

[KSOT]

If yellow grover says it's rigged, it's rigged.

[Escape]

;( i was up 200 pound with clearing their sign up bonus and proceeded to lose 150 flat betting 2 pounds a hand. This was in my last 1k of WR. ;(

[Ortho]

Has anyone come out ahead on the club on the park bonus? I know 3 people an we all lost in the £140-£180 range (£240-280 then got £100 bonus back), flat-betting £3-£5.

[mtx]

Damn, I think Coral is rigged too....last 8% of the WR, dealer goes on to win every hand and I go from 40GBP to 0....wtf... I redeposit $25 to finish the rest of the WR and he still wins every hand....he's only busted 10% of the time too, WTF!

God damn it it's so freakin obvious theyre rigged....losing 90% of my remaining hands as soon as Im about to receive my bonus......

[POlka]

+130 units flatbetting 1 unit over the full 4000wr.

330£

[shabun]

Lost $140 flatbetting $5. Its variance.

[sonneti]

+£50 flatbetting £2's 4000 wr +£100 from the bonus

[grando]

[ QUOTE ]
Lost $140 flatbetting $5. Its clearly rigged

[/ QUOTE ]

[HalvSame]

Everything online is rigged. And I'm loving it.

*Ahead of EV since my very first casino*

[swedeD]

Flatbetting £4, +£400 plus bonus +£100

[SirBobSaget]

I busted the trying for the 100 pound bonus flat betting 2 pounds on 2 pontoon hands. I was maybe 500 into the wagering requirements ... so I busted out hard and fast.

This happened after i busted out 170 pounds trying to get rid of some slot bonus that was blocking my access to the regular monthly. I reached maybe 700 into the slot bonus before busting the entire 170.

So thats about 550 USD down for me. I've never had this kind of luck at any other casino, and I dint tilt, flat bet the whole way.

Has anyone had success at Club on the Park? I'm really wary of this place.

[Blixx]

I did the monthly 3 times. Each time I was playing multi-hand 2 to 5 hands of $1-2 each. Found it to be streaky but I'm +EV so far.

1) Cashed out $180 +80 (was over 400, down to 50 then back to 180)
2) Cashed out $490 +390
3) Cashed out $77 -23

[Elim99]

[ QUOTE ]
I busted the trying for the 100 pound bonus flat betting 2 pounds on 2 pontoon hands. I was maybe 500 into the wagering requirements ... so I busted out hard and fast.

This happened after i busted out 170 pounds trying to get rid of some slot bonus that was blocking my access to the regular monthly. I reached maybe 700 into the slot bonus before busting the entire 170.

So thats about 550 USD down for me. I've never had this kind of luck at any other casino, and I dint tilt, flat bet the whole way.

Has anyone had success at Club on the Park? I'm really wary of this place.

[/ QUOTE ]

I am wary of this place as well and I not one to say casinos are rigged. I've lost about $540 in total in the last 3 bonuses flatbetting 5 pounds per hand. I'm still leaning towards variance but some of those hands...

With the number of complaints I've seen someone should be putting together some statistics from this site.

[MadMat]

I've done this one 3 times, flatbetting £1 on blackjack each time. my results are well within the normal range - busted out and had to redeposit once(completed WR for a net £30 loss), have ended £50 over EV once, and roughly spot on EV the 3rd time.

Mat

[Ray Of Light]

I've done the monthly here six times now (four times at Ritz, twice at club on the park)...

I have busted out completely three times; lost money twice; and profited ONCE for a measly sum of £4. I am down hundreds at this casino... but every forum that I check, judging from peoples responses, it seems as though my results are simply an anomily, as seemingly everyone (but me) is managing to win at this casino /images/graemlins/confused.gif ...

So could someone teach me how to win at Club on the Park? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Charlotte79]

I'm having no troubles with this casino - from December till now I'm taking the bonus each month, plus winnings that range from 40 to 100 GBP. I'm playing BJ surrender.

[Elim99]

[ QUOTE ]
I've done the monthly here six times now (four times at Ritz, twice at club on the park)...

I have busted out completely three times; lost money twice; and profited ONCE for a measly sum of £4. I am down hundreds at this casino... but every forum that I check, judging from peoples responses, it seems as though my results are simply an anomily, as seemingly everyone (but me) is managing to win at this casino /images/graemlins/confused.gif ...

So could someone teach me how to win at Club on the Park? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

How does someone bust out on this bonus? You can keep depositing to clear the WR. Bases on past results I probably shouldn't though. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[nappy]

I also haven't had a losing month on this casino since they reopened.

[BBKPoker]

LOL @ this thread.

[mustela]

Variance, bleeding variance

For example ... I am down TONS at Virgin, yet up at Paddies and Blue SQ .... all wagerworks

I am down TONS at Tote, yet up at Club on the Park and other Playtech's.


I think that Wagerworks and Playtech's do seem to have more variance than other casino software - meaning that huge swings (each way) can occur.

I only look at the overall figure for the month. As long as that is +VE I don't care if I've done tons at any one specific casino - the point is I'm ahead overall.



n.b. No "leading" online casino is rigged .... a lot of smaller, fly-by-night ones are.

Always check casinomeister before investing in a new or unknown casino.

[matt85]

Variance... nothing more, nothing less.

[themandude]

I have been saying club on the park is rigged for a long time now, they scamed me out of 200$, and I didn't even bet that.

[SirBobSaget]

Well I decided to try again, deposited another 100 pounds, made about 500 in bets was up to 130. Great maybe I'm turning it around and seeing the positive side! Though I was just inching up ... until next 100 bets -60 pounds. making me in total -130 pounds in a measly 1000 bets. I'm supposed to be only down only 10 given that pontoon is a 99% game

Definitely fair though right. I've never had this kinda of luck at any of the other 10 casinos i've tried.

[PoorTom]

Teh world is so rigged. Sometimes I, like, completely win and it's awesome, and yet it still seems that other times I, like, totally lose. I mean, WTF? How does that work???

My vague, anecdotal, gut-feeling analysis over a miniscule sample size indicates I should, like totally win lots an lots an lots more!

I want a pony.

[SirBobSaget]

Thanks for the insight into your Club on park experience. I'm not the one that labeled this casino "rigged". I've had unusually poor luck here, in total -565$ in about 10000 bets, -580 in 2000 bets since clearing the sign up bonus.

If you call that simply "variance" then I'm at the very brink on the negative side of the statistical curve.

And do you always end your posts with "I want a pony"? its simply hilarious! Keep up the good work.

[PoorTom]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the insight into your Club on park experience. I'm not the one that labeled this casino "rigged". I've had unusually poor luck here, in total -565$ in about 10000 bets, -580 in 2000 bets since clearing the sign up bonus.

If you call that simply "variance" then I'm at the very brink on the negative side of the statistical curve.


[/ QUOTE ]

Reply was more to several in the thread in general than you in particular. and i'm just messing wit you bruvva. But yes, your small sample size means not much, and yes it's almost certainly variance.

Your results seem rather on the low end (though not unreasonably so), but without knowing if you were playing perfect strategy or ever increased your bet sizes... meh. I've had similar results in other casinos.

FWIW i've killed this place several times over playing BJ surrender and am way ahead of EV overall. Which also means not much.


[ QUOTE ]
And do you always end your posts with "I want a pony"? its simply hilarious! Keep up the good work.

[/ QUOTE ]

No, but TY.

<font color="white"> I want a pony </font>

[jimpo]

[ QUOTE ]
I'm supposed to be only down only 10 given that pontoon is a 99% game

[/ QUOTE ]

Why do you play pontoon if you can't handle high variance? Play BJ instead.

[mustela]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the insight into your Club on park experience. I'm not the one that labeled this casino "rigged". I've had unusually poor luck here, in total -565$ in about 10000 bets, -580 in 2000 bets since clearing the sign up bonus.

If you call that simply "variance" then I'm at the very brink on the negative side of the statistical curve.

And do you always end your posts with "I want a pony"? its simply hilarious! Keep up the good work.

[/ QUOTE ]


$10,000 bets ... you don't mention stake size so shall we assumne $5 ?

I don't have a calculator for Pontoon but BJ provides the following

2 standard deviations = -529.66 to 433.66

so you are right on the cusp of two standard deviations in BJ, and Pontoon has around 4x the variance of BJ.

So I would say that you are probably well inside the standard deviation variance for Pontoon

[Manchild84]

Curse you Club on the Park!
I was doing fine doing 2 pound bets... breakeven or so. So I move to 3 to speed things along, and then I downswing.
Argh.

[Olin Prefleup]

Well i just tried this one for the first time, busted after wagering 2550, flatbetting $2. This is the first time i bust after 7 months of casino whoring /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

[PoorTom]

i trust you're going to redeposit and work your way up to the bonus..

anyway what is with all this 2 pound bet nittery?? don't you people have better things do with your time? five pound bets FTW.. plus you win more ;o)

[Olin Prefleup]

Phew, finished with a 60GBP profit.
And it was actually the second time i busted, after VC Casino

[DaNcInGgOoN]

im over 1000pounds ahead of EV, playing with betsize of 20-25, so its seems like i have eaten some of your negative variance guys... /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[DaNcInGgOoN]

By the way, i dont think grinding wit 1-5$ bets is the way to go here, because since last month they have added something to their T&amp;C -&gt; review all accounts after 3 months and probably bann all abusers.

[SirBobSaget]

Ok here I am again, still making a go at the 100 pound monthly bonus, after 3000 in bets I am down 450 pounds.

Either this casino is up to something fishy or I hit the most unlucky run imaginable. I am flat betting 2 pounds.

That is NOT within normal variance. I have 35 pounds left in the account and 1000 left to wager, I'm giving up and taking what little i haven't been scammed out of. Busting 4 times? That ridiculous

[SirBobSaget]

Never mind about withdrawing my last 35 pounds. Min to have them send a cheque is 100, and my Neteller account is locked up because of I am trying to have them refund my bounced cheque (a whole other pleasent story)

The rest of my Club on Park roll lasted 190 bets. All gone.

Total 485 pounds gone in 3200 pounds wagered.

[MadMat]

Looks like I don't have to worry about this anymore!

Dear: Mat
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[136913691369]

Well at least you know they probably aren't rigged. I don't see why they would bonus ban a probable whore if they were rigged.

[MadMat]

The strange thing is I've been whoring them since they change the name from Ritz Club, and this month when they decide to bonusban me is the first month I've taken a loss!

Mat

[grando]

[censored] I CANJ'T HANDLE THIS JOKE OF A CASINO ALL IT IS IS SUCKOUTS

LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE PUSH LOSE LOSE LSOE

HYACAHCHAHCHA

[netstorm]

lol, you tried to do the monthly again?

just stop it! ITS RIGGGGGGGEEEDD!!!

HYACHACHACHACH

[grando]

[ QUOTE ]
lol, you tried to do the monthly again?

just stop it! ITS RIGGGGGGGEEEDD!!!

HYACHACHACHACH

[/ QUOTE ]

FUN FUN FUN deposit total 500 pounds to get 100 pound bonus after double BUSTO

intercasino BUSTO

IRABUSTO

[grando]

ps. 5 pounds/hand ZOMG RIGGED SHIP IT IMAGINARY

[netstorm]

hehe, I also just busted on intercasino. Got me €40 from will hill though.

Im too scared to play clubonthepark for their 100pounds..

although they emailed me with that promo mail. 1 entry to a draw with prizes for each 1k you wager.


(Ill bet you that you need to clear that prize by 30x wagering. = INSTABUSTOOOO!!! )

[DaNcInGgOoN]

ok deposit 250pounds was flatbetting 25 on bjsurrender and finnished on 940pounds after 15minutes..

No way they are rigged..;P

[netstorm]

so why are you playing a -EV game? BJ surrender doesnt count towards WR...

[grando]

[ QUOTE ]
so why are you playing a -EV game? BJ surrender doesnt count towards WR...

[/ QUOTE ]

yeah it does

[mustela]

it is BJ switch that does not count

[netstorm]

oh yeah sorry, my mistake :-/

was confused with a different name

[grando]

fwiw, if you're playing regular blackjack you should switch to surrender - same rules but surrender lowers the HA

[netstorm]

yeah I know. I always play surrender.

anyway, just finished clearing their monthly. Deposited 100 pounds, ended up at 230. But yet again COTP amazed me with how many 50bet swings I had in those 4k wagering. So sickening, and I was lucky to have pressed my bets when I got a good run of cards. With flatbetting I wouldve been busto for sure there.

Oh well, gonna do some coverplay soon and cash that out

[grando]

every single [censored] time I split aces I lose

[netstorm]

seriously, WTF!

Im playing some BJ switch for coverplay, and the bitch pushes me at 22?!?!?!

wtf kind of [censored] rule is that?

[grando]

[ QUOTE ]
seriously, WTF!

Im playing some BJ switch for coverplay, and the bitch pushes me at 22?!?!?!

wtf kind of [censored] rule is that?

[/ QUOTE ]

it's the shittiest rule ever - I remember playing at casino royale in vegas and having 6 $25 hands in play, all either 20 or 21 after splits with doubles all over the place and the dealer going 6-16-22 and me freaking out cause I SHIPPED IT CRUCIAL

some guy next to me: um we all tie

me: HYACHAHCAHCHACH

[sonneti]

Ummm normal bj switch rules?

[netstorm]

bj switch coverplay ftw!

go 600 extra pounds /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[grando]

[ QUOTE ]
bj switch coverplay ftw!

go 600 extra pounds /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

asp54noa;rnkfa;dn

RIGGED TOWARDS ME OMG

[solucky]

tried second month 200 pounds flat betting 2 pounds 2 times bust = proofed ...........

[Manchild84]

I finished above EV. w00t!
(Didn't flat bet... I would work at $50 tiers, if I was below that tier, I'd bet $2, and if above it, bet $5. I don't know the math behind it, but it seemed to work well, as well as speed things up a little... The strategy in and of itself is probably -EV, but it worked this time.)

[grando]

your "system" is not -ev, so that's good!

clubonthepark is RIGGED though, so that's not good!

[Ray Of Light]

So I completed Club's Feb and March £100 bonuses... and unsurprisingly to me, both of those bonuses were losses...

So, to date, that now makes it eight losses and one (£4 marginal) win at Club On The Park, for me... /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Is there some kind of magic formula to winning at this casino or something? /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[grando]

read title plz

[Manchild84]

I posted the Magic Formula a few posts back. It's a foolproof betting system. I might challenge the wizard of odds.

[jimpo]

I did one monthly for a 10 pound loss. Part of me knows that I should keep doing it, but part of me is ruined by this thread and I think for my mental stability I am going to skip futher monthlies. Psychologically it is difficult to play there since if I am losing I get this "see, those guys told you it's rigged and still you played, how stupid can you be?" feeling.

[grando]

my monthly has been changed to weekly bonuses WTF

now it's rigged 4x as often against me /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[ColdDecker333]

I am bonus banned. I finished significantly above EV every month (about 4) which they let me play with bonus. LOL @ thinking that playtech sw is rigged.

[grando]

[ QUOTE ]
LOL @ thinking that playtech sw is rigged.

[/ QUOTE ]

I KNOW that it's rigged - that's why I haven't been banned yet

[Nina]

Jimpo, I love the pic. LOL (inside finnish humor, sry) /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Charlotte79]

I'm bonus banned too. However, I've managed to take the full bonus 3 months in a row and it seems they don't like that pretty much. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I made a second account, took half of the Feb bonus. March bonus - busted. So, 4 months ago the casino started all well and now it's definitely sth wrong with it. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Manchild84]

Looks like it doesn't matter anymore...

[ QUOTE ]
Please be advised that as of midnight 31st March 2007 we are no longer offering a 100% monthly match deposit bonus.

If you have already triggered your monthly bonus you will still be able to wager through and release your bonus at your convenience.

To ensure our loyal customers still receive superb rewards and benefits we are launching a new VIP programme where invited members can benefit from weekly match deposit bonuses and higher comp point conversion rates. Your account will be regularly reviewed so please look out for your VIP invitation in the near future.

In the meantime you can still earn comp points, accrued on a basis of 1 point for every £/€/$10 wagered, and of course you can still benefit from all our upcoming promotions. Please see the website for more details of our exciting new offers and rewards.

Kind Regards,

Casino Management Team

www.clubonthepark.com (http://www.clubonthepark.com)

Please note: Casino management reserve the right to withdraw any offer from a player or all players at any time. We reserve the right to revoke or amend VIP membership at any time. Should bonus or membership rights be revoked or amended we will endeavour to notify the player by email at least 24 hours prior to implentation.

[/ QUOTE ]

[grando]

I'm a VIP so it's still rigged for me - just 4x as often

[elrudo]

You bonus-banned guys are lucky.
Dutch players have been banned entirely since yesterday:

[ QUOTE ]
We regretfully announce that several more countries have been added to our list
of prohibited jurisdictions for legal compliance. These are countries that we
can not accept bets from and unfortunately, as a resident of one of these
countries, we can no longer permit you to play at Club on the Park. For a full
list of prohibited jurisdictions please visit our webpage

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Your account will soon be closed for play and if you have any funds in your
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Please contact our support on +63 2845 9060 (International phone number) or email
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[/ QUOTE ]

Doh!

[Bobo Fett]

[ QUOTE ]
Looks like it doesn't matter anymore...

[ QUOTE ]
Please be advised that as of midnight 31st March 2007 we are no longer offering a 100% monthly match deposit bonus.

If you have already triggered your monthly bonus you will still be able to wager through and release your bonus at your convenience.

To ensure our loyal customers still receive superb rewards and benefits we are launching a new VIP programme where invited members can benefit from weekly match deposit bonuses and higher comp point conversion rates. Your account will be regularly reviewed so please look out for your VIP invitation in the near future.

In the meantime you can still earn comp points, accrued on a basis of 1 point for every £/€/$10 wagered, and of course you can still benefit from all our upcoming promotions. Please see the website for more details of our exciting new offers and rewards.

Kind Regards,

Casino Management Team

www.clubonthepark.com (http://www.clubonthepark.com)

Please note: Casino management reserve the right to withdraw any offer from a player or all players at any time. We reserve the right to revoke or amend VIP membership at any time. Should bonus or membership rights be revoked or amended we will endeavour to notify the player by email at least 24 hours prior to implentation.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

Well that makes sense...they already offer what is likely the worst bonus in all of poker...they probably just want the casino to match.

[SuperJez]

how many of you guys got vip status?

[grando]

me, but I can't deposit anymore