Maniac villain - Line with JJ?

[thac]

Here's an example of a hand villain played an orbit ago (villain is UTG+1):

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $1</font>, Hero folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 5/images/graemlins/club.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif ($3.25, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $1.5</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($6.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $3.5</font>, Button calls.

River: 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($13.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $17.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $17.4</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.1 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $48.05
UTG+1 showed Qc 5c
Button showed AK


So now, the hand in question.. I fold for a long time, and finally pick up JJ vs him.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
5 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $1.5</font>, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($3.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $4.25</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($12, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $11.25</font>, Hero calls.

River: 9/images/graemlins/club.gif ($34.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $28.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero calls all-in $22.45</font>.
Uncalled bets: $5.8 returned to Button.


This look okay?

[mother_brain]

sure, could always raise that flop.

[Jigsaws]

Is he the kind of maniac that slows down when you raise him? If so, I like your line. If not I reraise preflop and hope he shoves over me.

[thac]

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Is he the kind of maniac that slows down when you raise him? If so, I like your line. If not I reraise preflop and hope he shoves over me.

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No one's ever raised him (that I've seen), but I assume he would.

[Jigsaws]

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No one's ever raised him (that I've seen), but I assume he would.

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Actually, I've seen quite a few that don't stop until somebody's all in and can't fold anymore, assuming the reraise is somebody playing back at them (very reasonable thought, really).

[thac]

So we should reraise flop and hope he has like a 76 hand?

[Dave I]

What are stack sizes?

[thac]

Effective stack sizes $40

[orange]

I would probably c/r shove the turn. I would also rr a decent amount of time PF.

[barryc83]

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I would probably c/r shove the turn.

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You have a strong hand but it's still just an overpair. Would hate to see an ace hit the river. CRAI on turn.

[thac]

True.. Thanks guys, if anyone wants results just ask.

[Jigsaws]

97o.

[Thrahl]

I like this line. Vs maniacs I turn into a calling station.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $35.35
UTG+1: $66.25
CO: $50
Button: $198.10
Hero: $47.95
BB: $86.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $1.75</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($4, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $4</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: A/images/graemlins/club.gif ($12, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $12</font>, Hero calls.

River: J/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($36, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $30</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $96
Hero showed Tc Th
Button showed 7s 8c

[simuk]

Check/calling against a maniac is pretty EV+ IMO. I would definitely "note" him for the pot-sized bluffs.

[wake_up]

Prefer to push the turn.

[simuk]

I'd be happier getting another bet out of him - especially pot sized ones. Despite the overcards he could if you dont put him on the ace.

I don't think it was too badly played.

[wake_up]

I tend to get a bit trigger happy on the turn with an overpair because I don't like tough river decisions...

[thac]

Villain had KK and was ahead the whole hand. Oops. Figured this was an okay line vs a random maniac though.