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machine
10-30-2006, 02:15 PM
No reads on villan

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $49.50
UTG+1: $13.85
MP1: $34.75
Wanna be SSNL player: $108.80
MP3: $18.95
CO: $64.10
Button: $51.70
SB: $49.50
BB: $34.25

Pre-flop: (9 players) Wanna be SSNL player is MP2 with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif A/images/graemlins/club.gif
2 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Wanna be SSNL player raises to $2.25</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($7.25, 3 players)
SB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Wanna be SSNL player bets $7</font>, SB calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($21.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $9</font>, Wanna be SSNL player calls.

River: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($39.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $31.25</font>, Wanna be SSNL player folds.
Uncalled bets: $31.25 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $39.25

kabouter
10-30-2006, 02:20 PM
I really have no idea what the villain has, he might have trips that he hit on the flop, and has been slowplaying.
But the call on the turn is bad, either bet there or fold, you know he is going to push it on the river, so if you aren't going to call that one why not fold right away?

n1nj4.br
10-30-2006, 02:32 PM
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No reads on villan

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push turn.
call river.

machine
10-30-2006, 02:38 PM
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No reads on villan

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push turn.
call river.

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I dont see what we beat here apart from a bluff, most hands would check the river surely

kabouter
10-30-2006, 03:12 PM
The question more or less is: is the villain bluffing, without any reads this is kind of hard to say, but I wouldn't have called the turn...

ronitonline
10-30-2006, 04:09 PM
You fold that on NL50?
Either everyone here assumes people play legit way more then the do, or I think people play way less legit then they do and I'll find out eventually.
I never find myself laying down AA here at Nl50 with random donks.

testaaja
10-30-2006, 06:34 PM
I'd make a slightly smaller flop bet and a bigger pf raise. Turn is cool imo, and river is good.
I think that usually this is a set or an overpair. This hands sucks so much without reads. It could be AsKs,88,44,99, TT (JJ,QQ). IMO this line suggests strenght more than not thus I'd fold the river but boy I hate this hand.