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Count Stackula
10-23-2006, 11:35 PM
Best play here on the river...do you think this could be something like 2 pair AT or something...is this an easy river call or a fold?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50.20)
Hero ($50.80)
SB ($45.60)
BB ($42.20)
UTG ($76)
MP ($106.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($4.50) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($10.50) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($10.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $20</font>, Hero?

Final Pot: $50.50

kaz2107
10-23-2006, 11:39 PM
i can see a hand like 2 pair or also AJ+ here that was just floating ur flop cbet as well. i probably call at the end tho since we are getting like 3 to 1 odds. calling nor folding seems spectacular right here tho.

george w
10-24-2006, 12:04 AM
depends on image and villain but i'd be more inclined to bet 1/2 pot on river.

also, i'd fold this. a bluff is super unlikely.

cwar
10-24-2006, 12:29 AM
Without any info on villain Id fold. Given a decent read calling is not bad at all but its tough cause you barely have any info on your opponents hand, my best guess would be aces up.

jonyy6788
10-24-2006, 12:31 AM
Seems like he was baiting you into the river bet. It'd be a $12.5 call to win $38 which isn't terrible, but seems like you are probably beat as played.

Jay2u
10-24-2006, 01:22 AM
First of all, we need information about reads. Yours as well as his (what’s your image)! But as you’ve given none, I assume there are none (you are new to the table and you don’t know villain nor does he know you).

Preflop: villain calls your raise OOP. Defense of the SB is not an option (11-7), so he must have a hand. Any pocket pair, AK-AJ (ATs), KQs-65s, KJs-J9s, KQ-JT.
He has you on 88+, AK-AJ (ATs), KQs-65s, KJs-J9s, KQ-JT.

Flop: villain calls your bet. Suppose villain is honest. That would make 44, 66, TT, JT and ATs possible.
It looks like you probably missed this flop. Of course, TT+, JT and AT are possible, but actually your bet looks like the c-bet it is.

Turn: You both don’t improve on the turn, so you both check. Villain could be planning to CR.
For villain, your check means that you are not sure anymore about your hand. This rules out TT+.

River: a great scare-card arrives and villain checks. Given the turnplay, I – if I where villain – would not be sure that you (hero) would bet, so that makes a CR-plan unsound/unlikely.
You bet and he comes over the top. Looks like a CR-bluff to me given how the hand has played out.
So I would call the raise 100% with these odds (38-12.5 or 3-1). If villain happens to turn over 44, 66, TT or AT, you type ‘nh sir’ and move on, knowing villain plays badly. Otherwise you pick up a nice pot.

J

Jigsaws
10-24-2006, 01:44 AM
Readless this is a fold for me, since there are very very few players that check-raise bluff the river at 50NL.

Jay2u
10-24-2006, 12:40 PM
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Readless this is a fold for me, since there are very very few players that check-raise bluff the river at 50NL.

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You may very well be right, but I think villain played this hand very very strange. IMO nothing really adds up except a bluff or someone who just loves to checkraise and thus loses opportunities for valuebets.

Not even sure villain thinks he's bluffing. A worse ace like AQ or AJ is very possible and he could think he is 'catching hero's stab at the pot'.

If the odds were worse, I'd fold without reads, but again: for me 3-1 is good enough to find out.

J.

Shaddux
10-24-2006, 12:45 PM
I fold. I don't think this is ever a bluff. Villain probably has trips or AT.

siwicki
10-24-2006, 01:00 PM
this should be under "small stakes" and i would put him on A10

Shaddux
10-24-2006, 01:03 PM
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this should be under "small stakes" and i would put him on A10

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This is 50NL.