River move

[Hybrid_11]

Unsure with the river play in this hand, maybe a criticism of the turn c/r as well.
Do i bet this river?
if i bet this river and he raises whats my play?
say if i check and he bets half hte pot whats my play?

Full Tilt Poker Game #1125410660: Table Far Hills - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:00:54 ET - 2006/10/20
Seat 1: s_praetorian ($58.80)
Seat 2: mikeridings ($7)
Seat 3: Cap Bob ($74.35)
Seat 4: funlovinsanta ($99.10)
Seat 5: melinao ($65.80)
Seat 6: fdlm ($0), is sitting out
Seat 7: PoorPokerPlayer ($70.95)
Seat 8: BirdiePutt ($16.70), is sitting out
Seat 9: zouleous ($81.25)
funlovinsanta posts the small blind of $0.25
melinao posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PoorPokerPlayer [Kh Kc]
fdlm adds $50
fdlm has returned
PoorPokerPlayer raises to $1.75
zouleous folds
s_praetorian folds
mikeridings folds
Cap Bob calls $1.75
funlovinsanta folds
melinao folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc Qh 2s]
PoorPokerPlayer bets $4
funlovinsanta is feeling confused
Cap Bob calls $4
*** TURN *** [Jc Qh 2s] [6d]
funlovinsanta is feeling normal
funlovinsanta is feeling happy
PoorPokerPlayer checks
funlovinsanta is feeling angry
funlovinsanta is feeling happy
Cap Bob bets $6
PoorPokerPlayer raises to $15
Cap Bob calls $9
*** RIVER *** [Jc Qh 2s 6d] [Td]
PoorPokerPlayer ???

[littlebu]

Here ya go


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $0
Hero: $70.95
MP1: $81.25
MP2: $58.80
CO: $7
Button: $74.35
SB: $99.10
BB: $65.80

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, 3 folds, Button calls.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/club.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($4.25, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($12.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15</font>, Button calls.

River: T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($42.25, 3 players)
Hero????

[Hybrid_11]

thanks, the converter i used didnt convert full titl hands, got it now tho.

[littlebu]

Oh and I would check hoping he'll check it down thinking your going to c/r him again. This is a tricky spot and I'm not sure how I would react to a psb. I think I would c/f here.

[The Velour Fog]

all in? also i would lead turn

[Hybrid_11]

and what is he callin an all in bet with that i beat? i cant think of any. I think an all in bet would be just a bluff to get a 2 pair hand to fold out.

[xwillience]

your turn c/r sux. on principle and size.


my line would look something like c/c turn.

lead river for 2/3 pot.

[Hybrid_11]

why am i c/c the turn and betting the river when the river looks a lot worse than the turn, if anything shouldnt those 2 streets be reversed, lead the turn c/c or possibly c/f the river.

[littlebu]

[ QUOTE ]
your turn c/r sux. on principle and size.


my line would look something like c/c turn.

lead river for 2/3 pot.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like this line a lot better than what was played.

[Hybrid_11]

is the 2/3 sized pot bet on the river a value bet here? what purpose is this bet. For me to do that dont we need to put villain on AJ, AQ and only those 2, can we do that.

[Brian O'Nolan]

What was your thinking behind the turn c/r? Do you think villain will call off his stack with top pair? Is this a hand you want to felt against him?

[pokerchap]

imo, the turn raise is pretty bad. as played, is betting 15 on this river okay? i think if he raises its a fold, but i think if you bet 15 he will call with worse hands. a c/f to anything more than 1/2 pot is fine.

[Hybrid_11]

my thinking on the turn is that i could better define his hand by seeing what he does on a c/r. At that point im really not looking to go to the felt. But i feel he could raise wiht aq kq maybe even aj on the turn and leave me in a tough spot, if i c/r and than he comes over the top i feel i can safely fold.