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SDSilverA4
10-20-2006, 08:55 AM
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $23.30
UTG+1: $13.95
MP1: $7.20
MP2: $1.20
CO: $12.15
Button: $4.50
SB: $1.80
Hero: $7.40

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $0.35</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $0.3 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.5)</font>, Hero calls $0.25 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $0.8)</font>.

Flop: 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($1.05, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $1.45</font>, Hero calls $1.45 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $2.5)</font>, MP1 calls $1.45 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $3.95)</font>.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/club.gif ($5.4, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5.4)
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

River: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($5.4, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $5.4)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets $2</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $2 returned to MP1.

Results:
Final pot: $5.4
MrMxyztplk
10-20-2006, 07:16 PM
I would fold the flop; you really don't want to risk MP1 coming over the top of your call.
xwillience
10-20-2006, 07:18 PM
i dont mind a loose call here.
MrMxyztplk
10-20-2006, 07:22 PM
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i dont mind a loose call here.

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A call is pretty bad.

You have 6 outs to the nuts only.
The guy who pushed could have a redraw to beat you.
The PFR has yet to act.
Your call is justified if and only if MP1 calls.
xwillience
10-20-2006, 07:33 PM
with an OESD/BDFD you need about 2:1 to call the all-in. your almost getting that as it is. its a low flop, the PFR likely has missed overs and isnt going to raise. if he does raise, you can muck it if your not getting odds, if he calls you have good implied odds if a Q comes and he has a hand like AQ, etc. sure its a loose call, but definitely not horrible.
SDSilverA4
10-20-2006, 08:55 PM
Some of my other reasons for calling this hand (and another draw I posted about) are that I'm trying to expand my game and learn when I can loosen up and call more. I am usually a very tight player but am learning times to be able to shift gears.
Yaboosh
10-21-2006, 01:48 AM
I really think that the preflop aggressor being yet to act behind you really hurts your odds here.
hanster
10-22-2006, 06:49 AM
Fold the flop wouldn't be too bad