$2NL -QQ and its already raised pre-flop. [Archive]

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checkmate36

10-19-2006, 10:16 PM

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saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($1.12)
Button ($3.21)
SB ($0.92)
BB ($2.23)
UTG ($2.82)
UTG+1 ($5.32)
MP1 ($5.76)
MP2 ($1.13)
Hero ($2.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.08, MP2 calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, 2 folds, SB calls $0.07, BB calls $0.06.

No reads as I recently just came to this table. I don't like getting alot of money in before the flop with Q's. This may be wrong but I prefer to see a flop before I pump the pot up.

What does uNL do here??

Flop: ($0.40) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0.1, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $1.05, Hero calls $0.05.

When MP2 bet out, the pot had $0.50 in it so I raised it to $1. I didn't think that was too much but curious if it seems about right.

My mistake was I didn't realize villian would be all-in just about so he raises me back and its a no brainer. I need to keep my eye on everyones stack size when involved in a hand Im thinking.

Turn: ($2.50) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)

River: ($2.50) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $2.50

wake_up

10-19-2006, 10:20 PM

Is this a joke? You don't like getting more money in PF with the 3rd nuts??

Anyway, you overbet the pot with your flop raise but it doesn't really matter with villain's stack size I guess.

checkmate36

10-19-2006, 10:25 PM

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Is this a joke? You don't like getting more money in PF with the 3rd nuts??

Anyway, you overbet the pot with your flop raise but it doesn't really matter with villain's stack size I guess.

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I guess my play is a joke. Im not sure the correct way to play it so I posted the hand looking for feedback that will correct my play.

Thanks for the help. How much to bet on the flop?

wake_up

10-19-2006, 10:28 PM

OK... raise to about 0.30 PF. As I said, in this case villain's stack is probably going in anyway, but ordinarily I like a 3/4 pot size bet on the flop.

checkmate36

10-19-2006, 10:41 PM

Thanks again

HouseCalls

10-19-2006, 10:59 PM

I think a standard PF re-raise here is about 3-4 times the original raise (.24 - .32 here).

Once he has more than half his stack in PF he will almost always put the rest in after the flop if you give him a chance so just raise his stack on the flop.

iraise50

10-19-2006, 11:13 PM

I think a re-raise PF is in order, I know people who are petrified of KK preflop, calling them "Ace magnets" and all sorts of stuff, but if you won't attempt to press your advantages, you can't reap the rewards of them. I tihnk the alternative is to fold, PF. I don't really think that's a good idea but if you are so afraid of making the decision post flop that you should elimate it all together.

FWIW I'm just a nobody, but I don't like getting into a spot where I feel like I can't make a good decision. I don't tihnk you're joking, I tihnk you are jsut relating your acersion to gettting beat by A9 offsuit to your QQ. It happens, 42% of the time assuming no suits are shared. It doesn't mean you have a bad hand, or that you shouldn't raise. However, if you can't make the call preflop, you can consider letting some of them go until you honestly feel like you're losing money doing that (which you are) which can empower you to make the re-raise. Incidentally, the more hands seeing the flop, the more that can beat you. Defining your hand right there gives you much better information and should eliminate some of the hands seeing the flop.

pokerchap

10-19-2006, 11:15 PM

at this limit please raise AI pf.