50NL FR - Turn play, possible flush. [Archive]

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Jayy

10-19-2006, 06:53 PM

Villian is 33/18/1.23 in just 18 hands.
Whats my line on the turn, and how is everything before it?

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($31.20)
UTG+1 ($29.50)
MP1 ($47.10)
MP2 ($8.75)
MP3 ($20)
CO ($46.50)
Button ($37.80)
Hero ($49)
BB ($50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, 2 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.25, Button calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.75) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero bets $4, MP2 folds, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($13.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises to $16, Hero ?

Vern

10-19-2006, 07:03 PM

18 hands means he is unknown.

OOP with AJs preflop I want to raise more here with two limpers. There is $1.75 in the pot, you add $1.50 more, for $3.25, the first caller has ~2.5:1 to call, I want to make that worse, I think I would raise to at least 2 here, if not 2.25. OOP with AJs I won't be upset if they both fold and I just get the $1.75 that was already in the pot.

On the flop I like my hand but want to win now. I have no draws, but my opponents may. I think I bet the pot here.

On the turn, I suck, so I think I fold. I like the lead, but I think you have to fold here until you have a better read on the villain.

Wondercall

10-19-2006, 07:11 PM

I like a complete pre, check raise flop. As played, fold the turn.

bgoalie35

10-19-2006, 07:22 PM

Bet around 3 pf. AJs OOP is not that great, so I'd like to go ahead and take it down now. Flop looks good (you can bet up to pot too). I don't like a c/r because I have no reads on villains, they have shown no strength so far, and I don't want to give a free card. I probably call the turn then re-evaluate on the river. Villain could easily be doing this with just Ac. I'm probably c/c a reasonable bet on the river, or possibly block betting it.

Jayy

10-19-2006, 07:43 PM

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...I probably call the turn then re-evaluate on the river. Villain could easily be doing this with just Ac. I'm probably c/c a reasonable bet on the river, or possibly block betting it.

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Pretty much my thought process. Not much on calling a minraise with possible flush, but this one had me scratching to much. Just wondering if it was a bad call on the turn. Block bet on river would have been a nice line.

Turn: ($13.75) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets $8, Button raises to $16, Hero calls $8.

River: ($45.75) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: $45.75

Villian shows As7s

jgallardo

10-19-2006, 07:48 PM

I would have raised to $2.50 preflop, at least. I usually raise to $1.75, when I'm first to raise, as it's the pot size. With limpers, I'd add $0.25-$0.50 on top (for EACH limper) of my preflop raise, depending on how tight/loose the table is. In this case, he's unknown. I wouldn't mind winning the pot right there.

On the flop, your $4 was fine, but once he calls, I think you have to put the brakes on, on the turn when he raises you minimum. The flush draw hits...sucks, but I believe a fold is correct. It looks like he's put you on Ax and wants to suck you in on the turn. He does has a fairly wide range of hands here though...