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Vammakala
10-19-2006, 01:16 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

UTG ($49.50)
MP ($87.10)
Button ($21.75)
SB ($62.40)
Hero ($60.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.25) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, UTG calls $1.

Turn: ($3.25) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, UTG calls $2.50.

River: ($8.25) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $12.5</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.75

This is standard, right? Villain entered game one orbit back. Hasn't been in any pots beyond limping and folding pf. There's only two hands that make sense for him to have I think, can you figure what they are?
xwillience
10-19-2006, 03:38 PM
yeah that sux.
ymu
10-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Read dependent.

He played very passively throughout, which could be QJ, or QT milking (but the river bet makes little sense in that case, unless he was hoping you'd think he was pushing you off a split pot), or KQ/Qx being very optimistic about a gutshot and implied odds.

QT and QJ make the most sense. AQ/KQ if he's a chronic limper and hopeless optimist. AJ if he's passive. A7/A9/AT, 22-AA if he's a total donkey.
Shaddux
10-19-2006, 04:21 PM
This looks standard.

Looks like QJ.
Vammakala
10-19-2006, 05:55 PM
Yea I figured it's either QJ or QT. Those are definitely the most likely hands he's have here.
lakemalcom
10-19-2006, 06:04 PM
Why would it not be a good idea for a blocking bet here? I mean, the river check says "Hey, please bluff me!"

He even overbets the pot. I would think QJ would make a value bet here if he's winning.
xwillience
10-19-2006, 06:17 PM
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Why would it not be a good idea for a blocking bet here? I mean, the river check says "Hey, please bluff me!"

He even overbets the pot. I would think QJ would make a value bet here if he's winning.

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it took 3 months to get that much out of you? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Vammakala
10-19-2006, 06:18 PM
Overbets are nice valuebets on these stakes. You bet $15 into $10 pot and you get calls from bottom pairs ;D
lakemalcom
10-19-2006, 06:25 PM
True, but still why not block bet?

Maybe I've just been feeling like I've been getting pots stolen too often OOP, but the river c/f just seems very weak to me.
Vammakala
10-19-2006, 07:10 PM
Blocking bet would feel silly. He'd raise a Q and call a split. There's no fold equity in the way the hand was played, unless he figures me for a Q, which is very unlikely given how the hand was played unless I flopped the nuts (also quite unlikely imo)