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Jigsaws

10-19-2006, 07:08 AM

Villain is 57/5/2.6 over 43 hands after the session. The only significant hand I've seen him play is the following one. So he can be aggressive with draws, but he's not too bright otherwise.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed)

BB ($29)
UTG ($39.85)
MP ($33.95)
Hero ($49.25)
Button ($15.15)
SB ($20.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.50, Button raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1.50, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Flop: ($5.25) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets $3.5, Button raises to $8.5, BB calls $5.

Turn: ($22.25) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Button bets $4.65 (All-In), BB calls $4.65.

River: ($31.55) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $31.55

Results below:
BB has Js 9s (high card, ace).
Button has Qh Ac (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: Button wins $31.55.

On to the hand: standard?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed)

CO ($16.80)
Button ($41.35)
SB ($32.35)
Hero ($53.10)
UTG ($22.80)
MP ($15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, MP (poster) checks, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($2.50) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, MP folds, CO raises to $5, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls $3.

River: ($12.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $10, Hero raises to $20, CO calls $1.30 (All-In).

Final Pot: $43.80

Leviathan101

10-19-2006, 07:12 AM

looks good to me. It's possible he got there with a backdoor flush, but I wouldn't let that stop me from felting it here.

I raise AJ preflop here to thin the field. I don't like AJ in a multiway pot.

AJGibson

10-19-2006, 07:20 AM

3bet AI on the turn

Jouster777

10-19-2006, 07:52 AM

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3bet AI on the turn

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Hero made a healthy turn raise and got a moderate reraise. Do we really think one pair is good here? Maybe, probably enough for a call but an AI just folds out the range we are ahead of.

If villain has 2-pair+ and we don't improve on the river he'll often try to "get value" from it with a 1/2psb raise and we won't have to get AI when behind 100% of the time. If he pushes the river when we don't improve we can get away from it some % of the time. The BD flush and being bluffed off the best hands are lesser concerns IMO.

I get it in on this river.

homeslice

10-19-2006, 08:29 AM

1st hand, With villian's stack size I 3-bet the first hand on the flop.

2nd hand 3 bet the turn.

Jigsaws

10-20-2006, 07:58 AM

Hrm. Against a more 'normal' player, I don't like 3-betting this turn, but I guess it's alright vs. this donk.

Results: donk has 7h4h, and I lose.

I folded preflop the first hand. Yes, limp-folding, bad.

gimmetheloot

10-20-2006, 08:02 AM

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Hrm. Against a more 'normal' player, I don't like 3-betting this turn, but I guess it's alright vs. this donk.

Results: donk has 7h4h, and I lose.

I folded preflop the first hand. Yes, limp-folding, bad.

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I would rather 3 bet a more 'normal' player. This guy will deifnitely bluff missed draws.

I dont like 3 betting the turn at all really though...like, never.

Also, Jig, u played the hand fine.

ActionStan

10-20-2006, 08:25 AM

AI on the turn? Are you saying that based on his stack size and your expecting to get all of the money in on the river? If he had more behind, that seems like a bit of an overplay for TPTK. Agree or no?

ama0330

10-20-2006, 09:41 AM

You should have raised 98s from the cutoff in that first hand.

I raise AJo preflop here, most definitely. I want to play this hand and I'm okay with it OOP, but I really don't want a family pot. Chances are that MP has nothing given he posted so that money is dead. I'd raise, then cbet any flop, folding to a raise.

As played, your bet is fine but your hand really is transparent now, which is why I think more aggression preflop would have helped you here. Given that Villain only has $11 behind him after his raise, you can't really fold the river if he pushes so I'd just shove on him right here. As played I'd just open shove the river because he has less than a PSB remaining and you can't fold especially with the Ace hitting.

Buddylist this guy tho, what a tool

Jigsaws

10-21-2006, 07:30 AM

ama: I think we should just agree to disagree about my preflop play. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I didn't raise 98s there for a few reasons. The stacks were shallow. The Button was a fairly TAGgy player, who I'd hate to play OOP against, even with initiative. I knew that if he raised, 98s wasn't great to play against his range, so I could get out cheaply. It was also already obvious BB was a donk, so I didn't have FE on a c-bet unless he totally whiffed.

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As played, your bet is fine but your hand really is transparent now

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You said this in the cheese thread as well, but, to be honest, I don't think it matters vs. donks.

kaz2107

10-21-2006, 11:55 AM

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ama: I think we should just agree to disagree about my preflop play. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I didn't raise 98s there for a few reasons. The stacks were shallow. The Button was a fairly TAGgy player, who I'd hate to play OOP against, even with initiative. I knew that if he raised, 98s wasn't great to play against his range, so I could get out cheaply. It was also already obvious BB was a donk, so I didn't have FE on a c-bet unless he totally whiffed.

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As played, your bet is fine but your hand really is transparent now

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You said this in the cheese thread as well, but, to be honest, I don't think it matters vs. donks.

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agreed. making our hand transparent gainst donks of this nature isnt that big of a deal imo. he could b thinking a million different retarded thought abot why u r making this play on the turn here and imo not many of them look to b quality poker related thoughts.

ZingyDNA

10-21-2006, 12:49 PM

I think u need to leave that table. Too many short stacks.

Sir Winalot

10-21-2006, 02:23 PM

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I think u need to leave that table. Too many short stacks.

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No way, shortstacks = +EV.

Jigsaw, the hand is fine.