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techvoodoo
10-18-2006, 06:40 PM
On Oct. 4th I wrote a email to the senator of Florida (where I live) in protest of the online gambling legislation. Suprisingly he replied.

My letter to the senator:

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Dear Senator Nelson,



I have never felt reason to write my senator in the past, however I think this current issue recently put into legislation that will ban online gambling is a subject I feel strongly enough about to take the time.



I have to be honest when I state that I'm not 100% clear on all the facts, as finding unbiased information regarding the subject has been somewhat difficult but it's my understanding that a Port Security Act was passed recently which had an Internet Gambling Prohibition Act piggy-backed into it.



From what I can tell the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act will outlaw online gaming and many of the major gambling websites, which are publicly traded companies, will no longer offer service to US citizens.



I've no doubt that there are strong arguments for the regulation of online gambling, and if provided with a sound and well thought out plan I'm sure I would support said regulations (as would many other gamblers). However the complete banning of online gaming seems an extreme solution to the problems that arise with gambling.



That said, my main issue with online gaming and this ban is specifically related to the game of Poker.



Poker has experienced an enormous boom in popularity in recent years. This popularity no doubt has had the most impact on the passing of the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.



However I don't think the government has taken a close enough look at gambling, games of pure chance, and skill based games, to determine the best course of action for this legislation.



Pure chance games, such as roulette or craps, have nothing to do with the player’s ability to affect the outcome of the game. These games are also played against a casino, not players versus players. For those reasons alone, I can see no appreciable reason to have online versions of those games. Games such as these just feed players need to risk and win money, and have no tactical component that would allow a player to influence the outcome of the game.



However in a game like Poker, of which there are many versions, the casino is providing the service of a dealer for a small fee. Players are paired up against other players and use logic, intelligence, and reasoning to influence the outcome of the game and play better than their opponents. This is not too unlike a game such as chess, or probably a more appropriate comparison of back gammon or gin rummy.



In poker there certainly is an element of chance, however a smart player with skills in mathematics and psychology will win more often than a poor player. The same could be said about a game such as Scrabble.



If the legislation was passed in order to prevent deviant gambling problems I think I have shown that it needs to be reviewed and skill games such as Poker should be exempt from the list of games included in the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act.



If the legislation the other hand was for reasons such as trying to prevent U.S. dollars going to offshore companies which could possibly be using the funds for things such as drug production or terrorism, then I think the solution is not a ban but some regulations.



Perhaps making sites that want to operate within the U.S. have to meet some level of accountability or allowing service providers to have U.S. based companies and host the gaming sites within the U.S. would be a good start.



At any rate please attempt to review this bill and present to congress the facts before they create a blanket law that prevents law abiding citizens the opportunity for having safe entertainment from within the comfort of their own homes, and also prevents many other Americans whom use their skill and intelligence to make a living at these games.



Thank you,

xxxx - Concerned Citizen


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The senator's reply I recieved today:

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Dear Mr. xxxx:

Thank you for contacting me regarding online gambling.

While many Internet gambling operations already are banned by Federal law, many are located overseas and currently are beyond the reach of U.S. authorities.

On September 30, Congress passed the SAFE Port Act (H.R. 4954) that included a last-minute provision to help tighten regulation of Internet gambling. I chose to support this far-reaching bill, largely because it will help keep our country safe by increasing vital security measures at our nation's seaports.

Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.

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autobet
10-18-2006, 06:48 PM
Got to love these guys. Of course we all support securing our ports, but what is this guys stance on internet poker? So they can't do anything about the offshore poker sites, but is he in favor of the add on squeezing off funding for these sites?

At least Bill Frist has the guts to stand up and state his opinion on the subject. Even if he was instrumental in the underhanded way the bill was passed, we know his stance.

Anyway, thanks for taking your time to write your Senator.

candyman718
10-18-2006, 06:51 PM
It really is truly beautiful. You take all of this time to compose a passionate, well thought out letter. Then, you get a piece of [censored] generic 3 sentence response. I think his response really is:

I am a US Senator. You are not. Unless you are contributing money to my campaign, your opinion means nothing to me. Please do not hesitate hahahahahahahahahaha.

techvoodoo
10-18-2006, 06:56 PM
I wasn't impressed with his response, but I thought I'd see what others thought.

flafishy
10-18-2006, 07:25 PM
I wrote a letter to Nelson back after the Goodlatte bill passed the House and I wanted him to know how I felt about it before it got to the Senate.

He sent me some generic response. He did not take a stance one way or the other, only stating the obvious that offshore gambling sites are not regulated by the US government and please do not hesitate to contact me in the future.

I'd like to vote against him in the upcoming election, but his opposition is that lunatic Kathryn Harris who can't even get any support from her fellow Republicans.

SoftcoreRevolt
10-18-2006, 07:59 PM
Eh, at least he says he voted for it because of the ports instead of saying what some of the letters on here have said "Online gambling is evil, drugs, terror, please do not hesitate to contact me in the future!"

IndyFish
10-18-2006, 08:08 PM
That is one heck of a letter. Very well thought out, very easy to understand, and it just makes a whole lot of sense. To get that piece of [censored] response from a Senator who is either too stupid to understand your argument, or too indifferent to the concerns of his constituents makes me want to beat him senseless.

To me, his response (roughly translated) goes something like this:

I don't care the smallest bit what you want. As a matter of fact, I didn't get past the first paragraph of your letter. Please, for the love of God, vote for my opponent on Nov. 7th. And don't hesitate to send me another letter in the future so that I may ignore it as well.

c5Nfold
10-18-2006, 08:36 PM
Of course he voted for it.....anyone who voted against the "port security bill" is commiting polical suicide right now.

techvoodoo
10-18-2006, 09:39 PM
On one hand, I'm pleased he read and responded to my letter. It makes me think that perhaps, if enough people took the time to contact their senators, some change could take place.

On the other hand I'm disappointed that he really didn't address the content of my letter, hardly at all. It makes me think this paticular senator doesn't have any concern for the impact this has and will have on American Poker players.

I just hope others take the time to write their senators. Hopefully with enough pressure they will take our protest a bit more seriously.

c5Nfold
10-18-2006, 10:48 PM
I've written to ALL my state senators and congressmen....I even wrote to the president, before he signed. I wrote and let Frist know what I thought of his bill. Basically, I got the same response from my senators. They really don't care what we think.

RobertHunter
10-18-2006, 10:59 PM
Nelson is also my Senator. I phoned his office after the House passed the bill to express my point of view. His assistant that I spoke with was knowledgable of the bill and after she and I spoke for a while she informed that Senator Nelson was against the bill that came from the House. With this being an election year of course no one is going to vote against a "Port Security Bill". They have to keep their voters happy and I will guarantee you that the typical person that votes is much more concerned about homeland security than being able to gamble online. I was actually encouraged by his response because his first sentence states that the government currently has no way of completely eliminating us from playing poker online.

flafishy
10-18-2006, 11:13 PM
Please explain to me how the senator in this lettter or enlighten me further from your phone call says that he either supports or opposes stopping us from playing poker online. That is what I want to know. He only says he is in favor of port security. Yippee. Not exactly a controversial stance to take.

I want to know if he's one of those hypocrites who wants to stop us from playing online poker but wants us to be able to bet on horse races or play lotteries online. If he is, I want him out of office. If he waffles on the issue, I want him out of office.

This is an issue that goes so much deeper than just online poker. It's a question of personal liberties.

candyman718
10-19-2006, 12:02 AM
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On one hand, I'm pleased he read and responded to my letter. It makes me think that perhaps, if enough people took the time to contact their senators, some change could take place.



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I have no idea how you could reach this conclusion. You received a 5 sentence form letter almost devoid of any meaning. Unless it is an issue that results in overwhelming one sided letters, your letter means nothing. A march on Washingto = nothing. Letters to the editor = nothing.

The only things that mean anything are PACs and voting for/ against candidates in very large blocs. As in NRA, Religious Right, NAACP, etc... Otherwise you are just pissing into the wind.