Where can we (U.S.) still whore casinos?

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[jono]

why are US players still trying? casino whoring is dead

[Halo7]

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why are US players still trying? casino whoring is dead

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<sarcasm>I guess I had better pack it in and go the way of CCU </sarcasm>

There are and will still be lots of places for US whores to go. Will it be as good as it was? nope, but you can still make some extra $$ every month IMO. I am gonna give it a week to let the fallout settle then am gonna revamp the site and see how much is still left for us in the land of the free. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Halo7

[calmB4storm]

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There are and will still be lots of places for US whores to go. Will it be as good as it was? nope, but you can still make some extra $$ every month IMO. I am gonna give it a week to let the fallout settle then am gonna revamp the site and see how much is still left for us in the land of the free. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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Great, thanks a lot.

[howdydudey]

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land of the free.

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right

[Jibba]

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why are US players still trying? casino whoring is dead

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<sarcasm>I guess I had better pack it in and go the way of CCU </sarcasm>

There are and will still be lots of places for US whores to go. Will it be as good as it was? nope, but you can still make some extra $$ every month IMO. I am gonna give it a week to let the fallout settle then am gonna revamp the site and see how much is still left for us in the land of the free. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Halo7

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Thanks.

[kurokitty]

I cleared my monthly on Cherry Casino and Casino Euro this month, but prior to the signing.

[aka23]

I have a top 58 list of USA Friendly sign up bonuses is at http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonususa.htm . Note that the Microgaming casinos do not allow play in Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Wisonsin, New York and New Jersey .

[kyleb]

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why are US players still trying? casino whoring is dead

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Sure is. Everyone give up pls

[peregrine]

I tought playtech banned US.

[Jibba]

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I have a top 58 list of USA Friendly sign up bonuses is at http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonususa.htm . Note that the Microgaming casinos do not allow play in Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Wisonsin, New York and New Jersey .

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Not a bad list. Hadn't heard of a lot of them, although that makes me worry a bit. Are they all reputable? And do you differtiate between cashables and stickies?

[aka23]

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I have a top 58 list of USA Friendly sign up bonuses is at http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonususa.htm . Note that the Microgaming casinos do not allow play in Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, Wisonsin, New York and New Jersey .

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Not a bad list. Hadn't heard of a lot of them, although that makes me worry a bit. Are they all reputable? And do you differtiate between cashables and stickies?

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The "type" column indicates if they are cashable, sticky, Clearplay or unique. Click on the corresponding links for explanations and strategy for Clearplay & Unique.

I believe that the non-RTG casinos are reputable. The RTG are marked with a warning link explaining the situation. Some are more reputable than others. I'd rank the software groups on the USA list as follows:

Most Reputable -- Microgamings... usually pay quickly with little hassle, there have been exceptions, as persons on this forum can attest to. Support is solid as a whole.

Reputable -- Playtechs... cashouts are more of hassle than at MG, may need to submit documents. Support is reachable, but inferior to MG as a whole.

Less Reputable -- Parlays... disputes are more common than with Playtech or MG. Support is more difficult to reach. They do eventually pay winners.

Not Reputable -- Real Time Gamings... cashouts are slow. Largest winners may not be paid. Disputes are common. See warning page.

[dc_publius]

I'm waiting for Halo7 to update his site with new strategies and lists for US players. lol

[Ratamahatta]

Halo7, are you from US and if you are, will you be only concentrate on finding US friendly bonuses? Thanks!

[batmanoflove]

halo7 and aka23, are you guys friends or enemries?

[Halo7]

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Halo7, are you from US and if you are, will you be only concentrate on finding US friendly bonuses? Thanks!

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Yes, I am from the US, but I will be covering bonuses for everywhere. About 50% of my readers are from outside the US so it makes sense to keep covering both. Obviously I have to get personal experiences from others when I do the review of non-US bonuses since I can't do them myself. I have been doing this in the past even before the law passed with non-us casinos such as Red Lounge and Private Casino.

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[Halo7]

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halo7 and aka23, are you guys friends or enemries?

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Hehe, what a funny question.

CBW has only been up since April so it hasn't been around all that long, but I know aka's site just went up a few weeks ago. I really think we are different types of sites. I checked it out and his (or her I guess) site so far seems similar to casinobonuspages with a list of 100's of casinos and bonuses along with some solid statistical math. When I started CBW, CasinoBonusPages (which is a great site BTW) was around and I noticed a lack of really in depth reviews from people who have actually whored the bonuses themselves. So at CBW, every review I put up is very detailed with screenshots, tips and tricks and personal experience to make it as accurate as possible for newbies and experienced folks as well. I see 10 problems a week posted that could have been avoided by reading my reviews, but hey, not everyone wants to read a longer review and that is fine with me too.

I know I could have 100+ casinos on CBW tomorrow if I wanted to, but I wanted CBW to only list ones that I have whored, and just as important, gotten my profits out of. I take it very personally when anyone reads one of my reviews and then has a problem following my advice. In any case, I have a feeling that aka was a visitor to my site at some point since his clearplay strategy is pretty darn close to what I recommend in my twofers, but I didn't invent the Sticky and Grind plan either so its all good /images/graemlins/smile.gif There is plenty of room for his site and mine, since hopefully in the end, we will both help folks take some money from the casinos. Good luck aka, running a site is fun and a challenge.

Halo7

[aka23]

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halo7 and aka23, are you guys friends or enemries?

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I'd say neither, as we don't know each other. As Halo7 mentioned, my site is quite new. It went online this week. I am adding content every day and continually improving it.

This is a good point to introduce myself, as I am new to this forum. A trip to Vegas on Memorial Day 2006 inspired me to begin online gambling. I wasn't much of a gambler at the time. I wagered perhaps $20 total. I had $1 in cash on me on the day my GF and I were leaving. We decided to use it on a slot spin. That spin won $750! It was the perfect end to an amazing trip!

I started reading about gambling online after returning and stumbled across the Casinomeister forum. I have been posting there and tracking my results and experiences in the thread titled "Gambling Log." It's up to 242 repies and 9000 views now. I've gone through all the quality sign on bonuses and various other promotions, making a net gain of about $23,000 over the past 4-5 months. In the process I've learned a great deal.

I have visited Casino Bonus Pages, Casino Bonus Whores, and quite a few other bonus sites. My inspiration for creating Beating Bonuses was being disappointed by seeing too many bonus lists influenced by the quality of affiliate payments rather than the quality of bonuses. I wanted to make a site that did things right. Note that this is not a crticism of CBW. Halo7 has a quality site that does not have the problem mentioned above with emphasizing lower quality bonuses with higher affiliate payouts.

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In any case, I have a feeling that aka was a visitor to my site at some point since his clearplay strategy is pretty darn close to what I recommend in my twofers, but I didn't invent the Sticky and Grind plan either so its all good /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Funny, I was thinking the same thing when I first read the twofer strategy. I had been posting something similar in my Casinomeister journal a few weeks before it appeared. The big difference was I emphasized French Roulette for clearing bonuses rather than BJ. Of course my strategies were not completely original either. A PM from a poster on Casinomeister and his strategy involving high paying roulette bets inspired me to start betting the bonus on ACBJ and baccarat. Wizard of Odds game odds helped me select French Roulette as the game of choice for playing through.

As Halo7 said, there is enough room for both sites. While there is some overlap, they have different styles and different content.

[godofgamblers]

Not to take credit for anything, but your twofer is just the same strategy I posted and PMed about with the free $100-200 bonus with the $20 deposit from casinoc extreme/classic? I forget the details, but its the same strategy of doubling up in the beginning (except that particular bonus required two doubleups before it was +EV) before grinding out... which is the same general strategy as a sticky. I have no idea why your twofer caught on so hugely while my post was left in the dust

[Halo7]

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Not to take credit for anything, but your twofer is just the same strategy I posted and PMed about with the free $100-200 bonus with the $20 deposit from casinoc extreme/classic? I forget the details, but its the same strategy of doubling up in the beginning (except that particular bonus required two doubleups before it was +EV) before grinding out... which is the same general strategy as a sticky. I have no idea why your twofer caught on so hugely while my post was left in the dust

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It's the catchy name /images/graemlins/smile.gif Or maybe it makes people think about getting free drinks at happy hour, which is also good. I still have your PMs from August and it was your PMs along with others who laid the foundations for my twofer idea. The only thing that I thought was sort of new (or at least not well known) was 1) the power of playing some cashables like stickies and 2) the pairing of like bonuses together to quantify risk and reward.

In any case, if someone has a better way to attack a bonus, I always want to hear about it! You can never stop learning in today's bonus environment or life. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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[batmanoflove]

halo you're awesome. i like your in depth detail and i follow every single step. but I've already whored most of the ones that are on your site so i'm now visiting aka's site. however i found it not really as detail enough for me to pull a trigger lets say on the yukon casino where it said requires 10 hands but is that equals to 10x to the deposite or 10x $1 bet. Anyway both of you are awesome and I've made a few extra hundreds because of you two.

[707782]

I personally knew about aka32 from the casinomeister forum, he make nice amount of money doing casino bonues.

As for Halo7, I really have to thank him for putting that site up, it help me a lot, not only whoring casino bonus the right way, but also help me to find out what the casino advantage is in the long run...

I really like the way Halo made up his sites, it really helps a lot when you give a full detail review for a newbie.

I guess that he could spend some more time to make his website's interface more fansy, and improve on his forum.

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lets say on the yukon casino where it said requires 10 hands but is that equals to 10x to the deposite or 10x $1 bet. Anyway both of you are awesome and I've made a few extra hundreds because of you two.

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For the record, 10 hands means ten hands with any bet size. The requirement is # of hands/spins/rolls rather than the typcal wagering of # x(B+D). Note that Yukon Gold and the other casinos with unique bonus rules have a page that explains the bonus in more detail. Even so, I recommend that you always check the T&C and confirm the information and details before playing a bonus.

[Halo7]

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I'm waiting for Halo7 to update his site with new strategies and lists for US players. lol

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This thread goaded me into making a first pass at the US/Non US thing. Man, it looks pretty grim for the ones I have reviewed. Luckily all of the Twofers are more or less intact which is good news. I added a sortable column on The List, The Advanced List, and This Month's Reloads pages. I am still trying to decide what to do about the "Easy Grand" since it was pretty much decimated for US players, with only 1 out of 5 casinos left available.

Halo7

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I personally knew about aka32 from the casinomeister forum, he make nice amount of money doing casino bonues.

As for Halo7, I really have to thank him for putting that site up, it help me a lot, not only whoring casino bonus the right way, but also help me to find out what the casino advantage is in the long run...

I really like the way Halo made up his sites, it really helps a lot when you give a full detail review for a newbie.

I guess that he could spend some more time to make his website's interface more fansy, and improve on his forum.

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My site is just about getting to the age I could revamp the front page a bit, and I know my forum sucks, but I have a great hosting deal that precludes using a better forum, and don't want to get a new hosting deal until that expires. Plus I just paid for 6 months ad-free for the forums so probably will reevaluate things then.

Halo7

[E.Z.]

is AKA FON??

aka23
newbie


Reged: 10/10/06
Posts: 43


this guy has posted 43 times in a couple days promoting his new site??

[aka23]

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is AKA FON??

aka23
newbie


Reged: 10/10/06
Posts: 43


this guy has posted 43 times in a couple days promoting his new site??

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I'm not sure who/what FON is, so probably not. This post makes 46. That's 46 posts in 6 days or an average of 7-8 posts per day.

As mentioned earlier I have been posting on Casinomeister under this alias. I have been posting using this alias on other forums before that, going back to 2002 or so.

[ballyho]

anyone interested in this issue should read
aka23 log on CM. VERY knowledgable and
the luckiest ****** who ever lived

[ImsaKidd]

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In any case, if someone has a better way to attack a bonus, I always want to hear about it! You can never stop learning in today's bonus environment or life. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Halo7

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Set a higher target for stickies. 3x is so much more EV than just doubling your $$. Realize as well that doing $1 bets at cashables is the lowest EV because you never bust.

You can attack high WR cashables (Da Vincis Gold is a good example) like a sticky. Just like the twofer, you always get more EV by stickying up a bonus.

[Halo7]

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In any case, if someone has a better way to attack a bonus, I always want to hear about it! You can never stop learning in today's bonus environment or life. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Halo7

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Set a higher target for stickies. 3x is so much more EV than just doubling your $$. Realize as well that doing $1 bets at cashables is the lowest EV because you never bust.

You can attack high WR cashables (Da Vincis Gold is a good example) like a sticky. Just like the twofer, you always get more EV by stickying up a bonus.

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Good points! With my initial twofers I was trying to strike a balance between the risk/reward and if I set the target too high, then the associated risk goes up as well, which would scare people off from trying them which is bad since they are so profitable. Risk Tolerant folks such as yourself probably play even more aggresively than I recommend anyhow though /images/graemlins/smile.gif I agree that you could apply this strategy to every cashable bonus and increase the EV, but for beginning whores, I think it would appear more like gambling to start out with the stickiesh strategies. Plus a majority of my readers are starting with $100 or $200 so grinding out a few bonuses to get it up to $1K+ is the best way to go since some bad variance would take them out of the game completely. I am reviewing some real stickies now and will be most likely using a riskier plan on them.

On a side note, Da Vincis and the others in the 400 Group changed all their sign up bonuses on October 1st to more or less slots only. Their monthly is still good though for now.

Halo7

[kyleb]

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is AKA FON??

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No, aka23 is a well-known poster on CM.

[kyleb]

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Set a higher target for stickies. 3x is so much more EV than just doubling your $$. Realize as well that doing $1 bets at cashables is the lowest EV because you never bust.

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The optimal target is around 4x the starting balance for a good balance between risk/reward. Anything more is ridiculous and anything less is very suboptimal.

[E.Z.]

sorry AKA,

...to even hint you were that low-life. i've been meaning to get involved on the CM forum but haven't yet.

i apologize,
EZ

[Freakin]

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Set a higher target for stickies. 3x is so much more EV than just doubling your $$. Realize as well that doing $1 bets at cashables is the lowest EV because you never bust.

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The optimal target is around 4x the starting balance for a good balance between risk/reward. Anything more is ridiculous and anything less is very suboptimal.

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I prefer at least 8x

[1huskerfan]

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Set a higher target for stickies. 3x is so much more EV than just doubling your $$. Realize as well that doing $1 bets at cashables is the lowest EV because you never bust.

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What size bets do you reccomend? I have read somewhere that 1/8th of your starting money is good for doubling. What do you do for building to 4x? The idea is to reach your goal about when your WR is done, right?

The optimal target is around 4x the starting balance for a good balance between risk/reward. Anything more is ridiculous and anything less is very suboptimal.

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[Brice]

Does anyone know anything about the B3W group? Are they legit?

[aka23]

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Does anyone know anything about the B3W group? Are they legit?

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The play is almost certainly not random. I'd stay away.