View Full Version : BonusWhores.com not allowing visitors from 10 US states now!
Niediam
10-13-2006, 05:10 PM
Link to Affilates/Rackback forum (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=7649792&an=0&page=0# Post7649792) post.
This is really getting dumb. /images/graemlins/frown.gif
jokerthief
10-13-2006, 05:17 PM
I lied to them and got into the site.
MyTurn2Raise
10-13-2006, 05:19 PM
are they checking IPS or something?
jek187
10-13-2006, 05:22 PM
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are they checking IPS or something?
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Yes, although our system is certainly not 100% accurate, thus we have to ask if we're accurate or not. It's kind of like porn sites asking if you're 18 or not.
jokerthief
10-13-2006, 05:23 PM
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Yeah. I got a notice that they detected that I was from Wisconsin via my IP address and I had the option of confirming or denying that fact. If I were to confirm it, I wouldn't be able to view BW. I lied and denyed and was able to get in.
Jek,
What states does this concern?
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jek187
10-13-2006, 06:02 PM
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What states does this concern?
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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.
NoahSD
10-13-2006, 06:09 PM
Why are you doing this?
DrewOnTilt
10-13-2006, 06:22 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
retep
10-13-2006, 06:27 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
MiJ305
10-13-2006, 06:33 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
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the boogey man
kleath
10-13-2006, 06:34 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
retep
10-13-2006, 06:35 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Why
MiJ305
10-13-2006, 06:38 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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so do you think 2p2 is next? /images/graemlins/shocked.gif
ramsclub
10-13-2006, 06:48 PM
From BW
http://www.bonuswhores.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24667
[quote="jek187"][quote="jhess888"]I was reading on 2 + 2 that people from certain states are banned from this site. Is this true and if so which states and why are they banned?
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We aren't banning anybody. We are checking IPs of people who view the site, and if we detect they're from a state where online poker is illegal, we ask them if our IP checking is accurate.
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jokerthief
10-13-2006, 07:02 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Why
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There have been casino affiliates arrested in FL. I also heard of an affiliate in WA that got a cease and desist letter from some DA. I don't think it's unreasonable for BW to take some precaution.
limit refugee
10-13-2006, 07:09 PM
I'm getting an ill feeling for the direction this country is heading.
thetruest
10-13-2006, 07:13 PM
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I've been getting that for over a year now, but you are right its getting to the extreme now, and no not just because of this gambling bill (there were other unbelievable bills that were also passed that week).
CardCuda
10-13-2006, 07:15 PM
What the hell??? Hmmm......2+2 (and others) gonna follow?
5thStreetHog
10-13-2006, 07:17 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Why
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AlexM
10-13-2006, 07:18 PM
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I've been getting that for over a year now, but you are right its getting to the extreme now, and no not just because of this gambling bill (there were other unbelievable bills that were also passed that week).
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I've been getting that feeling for over 20 years now, and that's only because I'm not old enough to have gotten the feeling for the last 150. Just as one example, the War On some Drugs has been far worse than anything passed this year.
Sifmole
10-13-2006, 08:30 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Results 1 - 100 of about 2,420,000 for pipe bomb making.
So if even 1% are useful.....
Starfish
10-13-2006, 08:37 PM
Wake up, you fools! It's time! It's time to start burning the evil gambling books! Freedom of information takes you away from jesus like those god damn Euro trash, curse on them.
5thStreetHog
10-13-2006, 08:40 PM
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Wake up, you fools! It's time! It's time to start burning the evil gambling books! Freedom of information takes you away from jesus like those god damn Euro trash, curse on them.
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excession
10-13-2006, 08:40 PM
Yes the People's Republic of the United States will ensure harmony and safety for its citizens
Greetings comrades!
Nepthu
10-13-2006, 09:36 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Why
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There have been casino affiliates arrested in FL. I also heard of an affiliate in WA that got a cease and desist letter from some DA. I don't think it's unreasonable for BW to take some precaution.
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Maybe I am not understanding the semantics of it: but isn't it a little redundant to ask someone to cease AND desist?
Dusseldorf
10-13-2006, 10:07 PM
Look the US is pretty busy bringing freedom to other countries,... we can forgive them for outlawing weeds and online poker at home. We can't just give freedom to just anybody. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Starfish
10-13-2006, 10:09 PM
You have to take something away from some people to give something to other people. (freedom that is...)
Synergistic Explosions
10-13-2006, 10:27 PM
We have freed 600,000 Iraqis of their lives.
Who wants to be freed next?
Ignignokt
10-13-2006, 10:34 PM
In the strategery forums we call this MUBS.
Uglyowl
10-13-2006, 10:48 PM
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Wonder if they can play poker in heaven. 70 virgins maybe? Poker, not if the U.S. government reaches that far? They probably think they do.
kleath
10-14-2006, 12:14 AM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Results 1 - 100 of about 2,420,000 for pipe bomb making.
So if even 1% are useful.....
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Referring to the affiliate sites being constitutionally protected not pipe bombs. My point was these states have laws against poker sites and affiliates and anyone in general who links to poker rooms. Its constitiutionally protected to TALK about illegal activities, not to link to where to buy them.
ubercuber
10-14-2006, 01:19 AM
So how hard is it to have your affiliate site read:
"Join FNFRISTPOKER DOT COM and use sign up code 'mysitename' for a $X bonus, sorry but you have to type it... links are banned."
and still get affiliate credit without having a "link"??
It's just links right?
_Kindred_
10-14-2006, 06:41 AM
It's perfectly legal for Americans to be affiliates of poker sites. The prosecutor would have to prove you are specifically targeting Americans with your advertising. The internet is global, it's legal to put up a site and make money sending Europeans or Canadians to poker sites. And since your innocent until proven guilty they would have to prove your intent was to promote illegal gambling in the US.
The only affiliates ever prosecuted did stuff like put flyers on car windshields or some other crap offline.
If I'm wrong tell me cause I'd like to cover my own ass, but I'm pretty sure I'm safe.
Marc H
10-14-2006, 10:37 AM
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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.
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fer f##k's sake, Why?
Can you point me to one single solitary statute, state or federal, that makes it illegal for you to pass along this information?
Seriously. I'd really like to see it, and as a lawyer I have some ability to discern whether it is constitutional.
MiJ305
10-14-2006, 10:39 AM
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fer f##k's sake, Why?
Can you point me to one single solitary statute, state or federal, that makes it illegal for you to pass along this information?
Seriously. I'd really like to see it, and as a lawyer I have some ability to discern whether it is constitutional.
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this is just a way for them to wash their hands , just like porno sites do when they ask for your age...no big deal...
kleath
10-14-2006, 01:44 PM
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Im telling you its not perfectly legal, in WA state for example it is a C class felony and at least one site has gotten shut down that resided in WA. Now of course they cant shut down an out of state site but as early June it has been illegal in WA. Constitutionally you could give an argument I suppose(I dont remember the right to affiliate with gambling venues as a constitutional right but w/e) but it is explicitly illegal in WA and FWIU the other states listed as well.
kleath
10-14-2006, 01:49 PM
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Can you point me to one single solitary statute, state or federal, that makes it illegal for you to pass along this information?
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WA state RCW 9.46.240
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Why are you doing this?
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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Results 1 - 100 of about 2,420,000 for pipe bomb making.
So if even 1% are useful.....
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It is not against the law to talk about illegal activity. It against the law to promote it. Affiliates are not merely talking about illegal activities so BW's response is perfectly reasonable seeing as they are the ones potentially put in legal jeapordy.
You pipe bomb analogy found all those sites that discuss pipe bombs, but if there was a USA site promoting pipe bomb construction and making a profit off that promotion, it would not last very long.
blueodum
10-14-2006, 03:14 PM
BW has sign up links to all the sites listed there. Therefore, they are "aiding and abetting" the poker sites in acquiring customers.
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Jek,
What states does this concern?
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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.
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Hi jek,
Illinois Law makes it a Class A misdemeanor if a person; "Knowingly establishes, maintains, or operates an Internet site that permits a person to play a game of chance or skill for money or other thing of value by means of the Internet _ _ ."
You mean all these years I coulda been gambling ON the Bo-Ho site?
jek187
10-14-2006, 07:14 PM
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Jek,
What states does this concern?
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We are currently trying to detect users from the following states: IL, IN, LO, NV, OR, SD, WA, WI.
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Hi jek,
Illinois Law makes it a Class A misdemeanor if a person; "Knowingly establishes, maintains, or operates an Internet site that permits a person to play a game of chance or skill for money or other thing of value by means of the Internet _ _ ."
You mean all these years I coulda been gambling ON the Bo-Ho site?
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No, but it's conceivable we could have been charged w/aiding and abetting.
Also, as a general note to all, I realize we've appeared like we're overreacting here, but there is still information that we haven't revealed that will help everything add up (I don't know when I'll be able to reveal it, but it is coming. (I know, I'm more of a tease than a Whore, but oh well.))
mikever
10-14-2006, 07:22 PM
What state is LO?
Edit: I assume Louisiana, but its supposed to be La.
davebwell
10-14-2006, 07:33 PM
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Elections are less than a month away. Find the candidiates position/vote and mark November 7 on your calendar.
jrz1972
10-14-2006, 08:37 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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No, he's right. PartyGaming, Sportingbet, BetAndWin, etc. don't block Americans from their sites. There's nothing illegal with publishing information about gambling.
Photoc
10-14-2006, 10:36 PM
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Wake up, you fools! It's time! It's time to start burning the evil gambling books! Freedom of information takes you away from jesus like those god damn Euro trash, curse on them.
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FYP /images/graemlins/grin.gif
kleath
10-15-2006, 08:42 PM
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Is that a serious question? They are protecting their asses.
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protecting themselves from what exactly?
It was my understanding that simply publishing information relating to online gambling is protected under the constituion?
Google "pipe bomb making" and am i sure you will find hundereds of usefull websites.
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You would be wrong
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No, he's right. PartyGaming, Sportingbet, BetAndWin, etc. don't block Americans from their sites. There's nothing illegal with publishing information about gambling.
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Your point would be? They cant do anything about it unless its in their state, doesnt mean there isnt a law on the books making these sites illegal. He said nothing makes it illegal to have a website on gambling and that is flat out untrue in certain states, where there is no grey area about it they are flat out illegal(not just the actual poker sites sites that link to them also). Is it rediculous? Of course, the law is still there though.
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