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iron81
10-13-2006, 09:23 AM
It starts at 10 Eastern on CSPAN. It will probably involve a brief speech by Bush with a few Congressmen and other people standing around followed by the signature. Come join me as we boo and hiss our way to the next phase of our poker careers. Anybody have an idea for a before lunch drinking game?

Vern
10-13-2006, 09:24 AM
I posted this in the old thread, but then I am not a mod either /images/graemlins/wink.gif

j2zooted
10-13-2006, 09:25 AM
quarters with poker chips maybe? 35 min and counting /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Beachman42
10-13-2006, 09:26 AM
How about drinking to every "political liscense" taken with the English language by our fearless leader in his speech?

Vern
10-13-2006, 09:27 AM
Well if nothing else, C-Spans ratings should see a spike this morning.

Vern
10-13-2006, 09:27 AM
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How about drinking to every "political liscense" taken with the English language by our fearless leader in his speech?

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I don't have that much alcohol handy.

Ron Burgundy
10-13-2006, 09:28 AM
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Well if nothing else, C-Spans ratings should see a spike this morning.

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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

mikeh1975
10-13-2006, 09:29 AM
who would have ever thought it would come to this.......

iron81
10-13-2006, 09:29 AM
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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

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They don't. They're funded by Congress.

Edit: Mr. K is right, they're funded by the Cable companies. The lesson as always is: I'm an idiot and Mr. K is God.

Mr.K
10-13-2006, 09:29 AM
CSPAN doesn't make money. It is a service offered by the cable companies to make Congress happy, thus ensuring greater support for the other things they want.

j2zooted
10-13-2006, 09:34 AM
someone called into washington journal (the show on now), a couple hours ago, brought up the the igaming bill, called bush the fuhrer, brian lamb pretty much hung up on him.

tangled
10-13-2006, 09:46 AM
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CSPAN doesn't make money. It is a service offered by the cable companies to make Congress happy, thus ensuring greater support for the other things they want.

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Could the answer have been as easy as that: PartyPoker offers a free link to CSPAN and Congress leaves them alone. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

sapsuckah
10-13-2006, 09:48 AM
Looks like Bush won't even mention the Internet Gaming issue.

AP Story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061013/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush)

"President Bush can promote fellow Republicans as tough-on-terror protectors, thanks to legislation that tightens security and closes a loophole in anti-terror defenses.

"Bush was set Friday to sign into law a bill containing an unrelated provision that seeks to put teeth into laws that forbid most online gambling.

"But the president was not planning to mention the Internet gaming provision during Friday's White House signing ceremony, which was expected to draw lawmakers from both parties."

sygamel
10-13-2006, 09:49 AM
Neteller initiated their own new blocking functionality for its merchants yesterday. I think they are doing everything to appear compliant without hampering the transactions that flow through it:

From Oct 12 Investor Relations press release:

Greater Choice for Merchants

In an enhancement to the NetDirect merchant platform, the Company has released new capabilities which allow merchants the freedom to define which global markets they wish to operate in. These new features work by enabling merchants to maintain country black-lists that block any money transfers from customers in those countries.

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Thus they're throwing the ball into the online casinos court to comply. They're hoping US regulators consider this mechanism to be in compliance with UIGEA.

Broken Glass Can
10-13-2006, 09:51 AM
To watch C-Span online:


http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS

Program starts at 10:00 (Washington DC local time).

Chrysiptera
10-13-2006, 09:53 AM
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How about drinking to every "political liscense" taken with the English language by our fearless leader in his speech?

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i'm already drunk

Broken Glass Can
10-13-2006, 09:53 AM
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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

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They don't. They're funded by Congress.

Edit: Mr. K is right, they're funded by the Cable companies. The lesson as always is: I'm an idiot and Mr. K is God.

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Anyone notice how a privately funded non-profit media (C-Span) is sooooo much better than a government funded non-profit media (PBS)? /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Vern
10-13-2006, 09:55 AM
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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

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They don't. They're funded by Congress.

Edit: Mr. K is right, they're funded by the Cable companies. The lesson as always is: I'm an idiot and Mr. K is God.

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Anyone notice how a privately funded non-profit media (C-Span) is sooooo much better than a government funded non-profit media (PBS)? /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Except for local programming. If not for local PBS programing I would never have been introduced to Montey Python, Dr. Who or Red Dwarf. That and I love Nova.

j2zooted
10-13-2006, 09:57 AM
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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

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They don't. They're funded by Congress.

Edit: Mr. K is right, they're funded by the Cable companies. The lesson as always is: I'm an idiot and Mr. K is God.

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Anyone notice how a privately funded non-profit media (C-Span) is sooooo much better than a government funded non-profit media (PBS)? /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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pbs has frontline and newshour with jim lehrer which aint' bad

chigger
10-13-2006, 09:59 AM
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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

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They don't. They're funded by Congress.

Edit: Mr. K is right, they're funded by the Cable companies. The lesson as always is: I'm an idiot and Mr. K is God.

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Anyone notice how a privately funded non-profit media (C-Span) is sooooo much better than a government funded non-profit media (PBS)? /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Except for local programming. If not for local PBS programing I would never have been introduced to Montey Python, Dr. Who or Red Dwarf. That and I love Nova.

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You left out the "Red Green Show" ehh...

Vern
10-13-2006, 10:01 AM
It's happening, live cutaway on CSpan

Mr.K
10-13-2006, 10:02 AM
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Neteller initiated their own new blocking functionality for its merchants yesterday. I think they are doing everything to appear compliant without hampering the transactions that flow through it:

From Oct 12 Investor Relations press release:

Greater Choice for Merchants

In an enhancement to the NetDirect merchant platform, the Company has released new capabilities which allow merchants the freedom to define which global markets they wish to operate in. These new features work by enabling merchants to maintain country black-lists that block any money transfers from customers in those countries.

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Thus they're throwing the ball into the online casinos court to comply. They're hoping US regulators consider this mechanism to be in compliance with UIGEA.

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I am not sure legally how strong of an action this is, but in the PR sense it seems to me to be a very smart move.

j2zooted
10-13-2006, 10:08 AM
hopefully he takes questions and someone asks about the igea

Brainwalter
10-13-2006, 10:08 AM
NOOOOO

HSB
10-13-2006, 10:12 AM
I think everyone watching should immediately make a deposit into an online site as protest.

Then e-mail Frist and tell him that they watched the bill signing and immediately made a deposit into an online site as protest.

Make sure he knows his stupid bill is utterly ineffectual.

NickyD
10-13-2006, 10:13 AM
Unbelievable! Who was that fool on the far right grinnin" like a possum eatin s--t?

kidpokeher
10-13-2006, 10:15 AM
Fox News continues their propaganda campaign saying internet gambling was used to launder money by terrorists. Also saying it was a republican response to the Jack Abramof indian gaming scandal. Of course nothing was mentioned about the complete irrelevance it has to actual port security. I'm ashamed to be an American.

Wahoo73
10-13-2006, 10:17 AM
I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed of my American government.

Vern
10-13-2006, 10:18 AM
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I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed of my American government.

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"We the people...."

Vern
10-13-2006, 10:19 AM
CSPan just replayed the part about where the caller referred to Bush as the fuhrer.

costanza_g
10-13-2006, 10:20 AM
LOL, theres some show on cspan now, and whenever some caller brings up the IGA, he cuts them off...its sadly amusing and depressing. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

DMoogle
10-13-2006, 10:21 AM
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I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed of my American government.

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Yeah, I have no reason to be ashamed of who I am, only that I live in a place that pretends to be something it's not (a democracy).

Herrigel
10-13-2006, 10:25 AM
Anyone to provide a link to watch it on web?
(The link given in this thread doesn't work for me.)

Wahoo73
10-13-2006, 10:28 AM
"Alright everyone...the show's over...nothing to see here...move along."

Ron Burgundy
10-13-2006, 10:29 AM
Yay! Read us the newspaper grandpa!

PokerFoo
10-13-2006, 11:07 AM
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Fox News continues their propaganda campaign saying internet gambling was used to launder money by terrorists.

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You have selective hearing. In That follow-up your referring to, Fox reported that the internet legislation was attached to this bill and the white house was not commenting on if it was appropriate or not and that they (the GOP) claimed it was used for laundering of terror and drug money. He also went on to mention how this legislation was nixed in the past blah blah blah.

Going from that short follow-up report, which takes no sides and just states facts, to "fox being a propaganda machine" is a pretty long stretch.

Pointing out how the media reports this issue is important, though. I'm sure there are PPA heads that read these forums. They should get on some of these talking points shows and bring the information to the public.

Call O'reilly and get some time. Get on Dayside. Phone into the radio shows and bring it up. What Bothers me the most is paying the dues for the PPA and not seeing anyone from our lobby on any of these news programs. Where is our representation? What the hell are they doing? Why are they not all over the news shows all week long making noise?

Other groups can spend big dollars to get politicians to talk on thier behalf. I'm sure some of these poker sites could pony up some big bucks and get someone important to do a talk show circuit. How about a tv ad campaign?

I think the fact that our lobby and industry has been a non existant entity in this debate is as much to blame as anything else. Instead of asking everyone to write their senators they should have been asking us to send thousands of letters to Fox news and keep sending them non stop. Spam the news outlets. Thats how you get attention and start a dialog.

SayGN
10-13-2006, 11:17 AM
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I think the fact that our lobby and industry has been a non existant entity in this debate is as much to blame as anything else. Instead of asking everyone to write their senators they should have been asking us to send thousands of letters to Fox news and keep sending them non stop. Spam the news outlets. Thats how you get attention and start a dialog.

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I completely agree.

xxThe_Lebowskixx
10-13-2006, 11:23 AM
Has it been signed yet?

iron81
10-13-2006, 11:26 AM
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Has it been signed yet?

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Yeah. Real fast too, it only took about 10 mins.

Vern
10-13-2006, 11:28 AM
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Has it been signed yet?

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Yeah. Real fast too, it only took about 10 mins.

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Quick because he only talked about ports and safety.

reecelights
10-13-2006, 11:45 AM
A Conservative radio host being interviewed on MSNBC just agreed with the liberal radio host who said "This is about tax money not coming into the country."

The conservative said "I agree here, and frankly I want Al-Qaeda playing as much online Keno as possible."

scottjf8
10-13-2006, 11:54 AM
meh

Sadat X
10-13-2006, 12:08 PM
Has anyone tried logging into Party yet?

sorry4me
10-13-2006, 12:16 PM
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Lawman007
10-13-2006, 01:30 PM
That idiot Bush didn't even mention the internet gambling portion of the bill. What a chickens-hit. He and his fascist minions don't want the American people to know what they've done.

Oh well, the bill is now law. On the bright side, we will no longer have to read any inane "Will Bush veto the bill?" posts.

nation
10-13-2006, 01:33 PM
no monster tables?

edit: i cant play

Artsemis
10-13-2006, 01:43 PM
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He and his fascist minions don't want the American people to know what they've done.

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This makes no sense. The whole point in this bill was exactly to let the American people know what they were doing, and nothing else.

jamzfive
10-13-2006, 01:52 PM
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On the bright side, we will no longer have to read any inane "Will Bush veto the bill?" posts.


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But I was just at a huge protest down in DC and/or outside the Today Show and rumor had it that Bush was going to pocket line-item cancel the whole bill!

jb

Lawman007
10-13-2006, 01:54 PM
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He and his fascist minions don't want the American people to know what they've done.

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This makes no sense. The whole point in this bill was exactly to let the American people know what they were doing, and nothing else.

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BS. If the mainstream American public knew about this, I think most of them would be outraged.

If Bush and his fellow fascists were so damn proud of the internet gambling bill, then why didn't they bring it up for a vote as a stand alone instead of tacking it onto a must-pass bill under cover of darkness at the eleventh hour? Why didn't Bush brag about it, or at least mention it, when he signed the port safety bill this morning?

This is nothing but these right wing, self-righteous fascists catering to their ultra conservative base and hoping that the rest of America doesn't realize what they've done.

I think this is going to backfire on them at the polls, just like Iraq and their coverup of the gay, pedophile, page-abusing Republican congressman.

PA32R
10-13-2006, 01:58 PM
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How exactly does CSPAN make money BTW?

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They don't. They're funded by Congress.

Edit: Mr. K is right, they're funded by the Cable companies. The lesson as always is: I'm an idiot and Mr. K is God.

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Anyone notice how a privately funded non-profit media (C-Span) is sooooo much better than a government funded non-profit media (PBS)? /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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Except for local programming. If not for local PBS programing I would never have been introduced to Montey Python, Dr. Who or Red Dwarf. That and I love Nova.

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Heck, I love Nova also. And, despite it's liberal leanings (to say the least), I learn from Frontline. And Norm Abrams is pretty cool - I've built some of his furniture.

CORed
10-13-2006, 04:19 PM
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How about drinking to every "political liscense" taken with the English language by our fearless leader in his speech?

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I don't have that much alcohol handy.

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Good thing. It would be a lethal dose.

kidpokeher
10-13-2006, 05:05 PM
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Fox News continues their propaganda campaign saying internet gambling was used to launder money by terrorists.

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You have selective hearing. In That follow-up your referring to, Fox reported that the internet legislation was attached to this bill and the white house was not commenting on if it was appropriate or not and that they (the GOP) claimed it was used for laundering of terror and drug money. He also went on to mention how this legislation was nixed in the past blah blah blah.

Going from that short follow-up report, which takes no sides and just states facts, to "fox being a propaganda machine" is a pretty long stretch.

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Did you miss the title bar on the bottom third of the screen saying Internet gambling was used to launder money to terrorists - deliberately stating opinion as fact? Did you miss Bob Sellers' comments about same to the news babe du jour following the segment? I'm not the one being selective.

End of hijack.

ravenfan1733
10-13-2006, 05:22 PM
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I think everyone watching should immediately make a deposit into an online site as protest.

Then e-mail Frist and tell him that they watched the bill signing and immediately made a deposit into an online site as protest.

Make sure he knows his stupid bill is utterly ineffectual.

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If everyone who plays online poker takes the time and effort to VOTE next month, that will send a message. I switched my affiliation to Democrat earlier this week after 21 years as a Republican. Go Red!

Ellsworth T
10-13-2006, 05:34 PM
Hate to break it to you all, but I hardly doubt that smashing our internet proclivities are the governments primary motive in passing the bill. I doubt Bill Frist woke up every morning thinking, "oh I can't wait to spoil Vern and Lebowski and Iron881's source of income, muhahahahaha". Yea sucks big ass that we might not have 5 digit months but stop being so ego-centric, and claiming that they are hurting the American public when the opposite is most likely the result.