View Full Version : Prima pulling out of 10 states
shockblock
10-13-2006, 02:14 AM
Got emails today from all prima sites I am at.
They are pulling out of the cursed 10, of course I would have to live in Oregon. Such a good place to live, what a bummer!
Spaded
10-13-2006, 02:14 AM
Which states would that be?
wheatrich
10-13-2006, 02:17 AM
I confirm this. Illinois is out as well. The e-mail appeared to me that it was the entire US not just 10 states though.
Leader
10-13-2006, 02:28 AM
Could you post this email?
wheatrich
10-13-2006, 02:32 AM
(from my prima client) [email was edited to remove my account info for incredibly obvious reasons]
It is with deep regret that we inform you that Royal Vegas Poker will stop accepting bets from our customers in ILLINOIS, as from mid-day, Eastern Standard Time, on October 13th.
The Safe Ports Act passed by the US Congress on Friday, September 29, makes the transfer or direct processing of money to online gaming institutions illegal in the USA.
As a result, Royal Vegas Poker has no choice but to lock your poker account, and return all cash balances to you via check, or your preferred method of payment.
Please log into your account as soon as possible and withdraw or play through any remaining cash balance you may have.
Any cash balances remaining in your accounts after Friday, October 13th will be returned.
We would like thank you again for your loyalty and patronage and confirm that customers, such as yourself, have always been at the heart of Royal Vegas Poker. We will be following all developments extremely closely and should the situation change, we will advise you accordingly.
Please direct any queries that you may have, or balance withdrawal requests to our support team on enquiry@fortunelounge.com or 1-866-534-1595.
Kind Regards,
The Royal Vegas Poker Team
Leader
10-13-2006, 02:35 AM
heh that sucks. I didn't get an email from them. I live in MA. I also just opened an account there yesterday and have never made a deposit though.
StellarWind
10-13-2006, 02:41 AM
A BetHoldem live chat operator just told me that they have not heard of any Prima action. They are not sending notices to any U.S. customers.
Take that for what it is worth.
We expected some Prima skins to pull out. Have we really heard anything new except the details?
Is there any actual evidence of network-level action?
MLSchaff
10-13-2006, 02:43 AM
Does anyone have information that PRIMA is pulling out of these states?
This e-mail only references Royal Vegas. Many, but not all or even a majority, of Prima sites have excluded players from certain states over the past several weeks and months. But to date, the Microgaming (Prima) network itself has not to my knowledge made any requirements of its skins to stop service to any jurisdictions.
Anyone have further info on this? If things are remaining status quo with regard to Microgaming's practice of lettings its skins decide, there are still plenty of sites to choose from.
tagtastic
10-13-2006, 05:04 AM
Battlefield e-mailed me saying no more play there after bill gets signed, add that to the list of skins no longer accepting people from those 10 states.
Very glad I cashed out last week.
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Which states would that be?
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This new ruling applies to all new and existing players residing in the States listed below.
1. Illinois
2. Indiana
3. Louisiana
4. Michigan
5. Nevada
6. New Jersey
7. New York
8. Oregon
9. South Dakota
10. Washington
11. Wisconsin
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Sniper
10-13-2006, 08:03 AM
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Which states would that be?
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This new ruling applies to all new and existing players residing in the States listed below.
1. Illinois
2. Indiana
3. Louisiana
4. Michigan
5. Nevada
6. New Jersey
7. New York
8. Oregon
9. South Dakota
10. Washington
11. Wisconsin
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TT,
Any idea why Prima's 10 states differs from Paradise's 10 states?
easye
10-13-2006, 09:57 AM
I received the same email from Battlefield this morning. Unfortunately I live in NJ so I am SOL. I also have an account with BetHoldem and spoke with them via Live Chat. This is what they said:
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Me: yes, i recently received an email from another microgaming site, telling me that they were going to close operations in a number of US states. Will you be doing the same thing?
Sharise S: We have not, to date, received any correspondence from Micro gaming. Until any updates are received, business will operate as usual. We will be sure to update you if the situation arises.
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So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
primetime32
10-13-2006, 10:13 AM
how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
primetime32
10-13-2006, 10:20 AM
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how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
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but the new law doesn't make gambling online illegal it just addressses banking and isp issues. or so i thought
Sarge85
10-13-2006, 10:21 AM
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how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
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CRAP
Can we expect this of Pokerstars, FT, ....
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how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
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but the new law doesn't make gambling online illegal it just addressses banking and isp issues. or so i thought
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Yes, it makes bank transactions for the purpose of engaging in unlawful gambling a felony. So it if is not unlawful to gamble in a state, the transactions are not a felony. But if it is unlawful to gamble in a state, then the federal law makes bank transactions to engage in that unlawful gambling a felony.
Wahoo73
10-13-2006, 10:24 AM
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
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Uhhhhh...not quite correct. The UIGEA provides enforcement measures of already existing federal and state laws that specifically prohibit internet gambling. The states listed are those that already have laws on the books that address internet gambling. Currently, all the other states have no laws regarding internet gambling.
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how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
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CRAP
Can we expect this of Pokerstars, FT, ....
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I personally doubt it, but I don't know.
DamnNuts
10-13-2006, 10:25 AM
I just got this e-mail. It clearly states Microgaming has made the decision, not the the skins.
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Dear DamnNuts,
We regret to inform you that due to recent changes in
US legislation, Microgaming, the software provider for
the Jackpot Factory Casino group, has decided to stop
taking bets from players residing in the following states:
Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey,
New York, Oregon, South Dakota, Washington, and Wisconsin
This new rule will go into effect as of 10:00 AM EST on
Friday, October 13th at which time the accounts of
players residing in these states will be closed.
Please note that the casino will conduct a manual withdrawal
for any remaining funds in your casino cash account at the
start of the next work week. The Jackpot Factory has always
prided itself on being an honest and reputable casino group,
and rest assured that you will receive your outstanding funds.
If you have received this mail in error and you do not live
in one of the above states, please contact our
support center at support@jackpotfactory.com to take
the necessary steps to re-open your account.
In addition, if you have any questions feel free to
write us at support@jackpotfactory.com
or call us toll-free: 1-866-517-1404
We thank you for understanding in this matter.
Your account number is: pwjr06728174.
All the best,
Robert Williams
Wild Jack Poker
http://www.wildjack.com
A Jackpot Factory Casino
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primetime32
10-13-2006, 10:28 AM
I am not buying any of this. I think some of these hire Lionel Hutz as their attorney. If well respected sites like poker stars arent making the distinction i have no reason to think a few small sites have it right.
easye
10-13-2006, 12:11 PM
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I received the same email from Battlefield this morning. Unfortunately I live in NJ so I am SOL. I also have an account with BetHoldem and spoke with them via Live Chat. This is what they said:
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Me: yes, i recently received an email from another microgaming site, telling me that they were going to close operations in a number of US states. Will you be doing the same thing?
Sharise S: We have not, to date, received any correspondence from Micro gaming. Until any updates are received, business will operate as usual. We will be sure to update you if the situation arises.
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So, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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Well now I can't get into my BetHoldem bank, so it looks like it is all of Prima. Pretty [censored] if Prima didn't tell all their skins about this and just did it.
beaster
10-13-2006, 12:28 PM
What I don't get is -- why New York? Nobody else is banning New York.
MrWookie
10-13-2006, 12:32 PM
Hey, as long as I can still get to BetHoldEm, Battlefield can take the $0 I've ever deposited there and shove it.
daveymck
10-13-2006, 12:34 PM
I posted earlier but it disappeared that according to the BBC 32 Red is Banning all US players
Edit no I posted it in the other Prima thread /images/graemlins/blush.gif
permafrost
10-13-2006, 01:06 PM
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how does this only apply to a few states????
Last i checked this bill applied to the United States and the The Few Selected States of America.
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Basically, it is only a violation of the new Federal Law if gambling is a violation of state law.
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state law or previous Federal laws.
permafrost
10-13-2006, 01:21 PM
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I am not buying any of this. I think some of these hire Lionel Hutz as their attorney. If well respected sites like poker stars arent making the distinction i have no reason to think a few small sites have it right.
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Stars seems to be saying poker is not unlawful gambling, legal everywhere, therefore they need no state distinctions.
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