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KikoSanchez
10-11-2006, 05:32 PM
From their website:

Thursday, October 5, 2006

888.com deeply regrets the decision of the US Congress to ban gaming sites from accepting bets from US based customers. As a responsible public company we would like to update you on the decisions we have taken and to inform you of the changes to our gaming products and services in light of this event.

For Existing Members:


Until the legislation takes full effect, US based members are permitted to play for real money as usual. Members can deposit, place bets and cash out at 888.com's Casino-on-Net and Pacific Poker until the new law comes into effect. We can assure you that any funds that you hold in your Casino-on-Net or Pacific Poker account are safe and secure as always.
Once the new law takes effect, 888.com will no longer be able to accept deposits from US based members.
The new legislation does not apply to cash outs. US based members will be able to request cash outs even after the new law comes into effect.
Casino-on-Net and Pacific Poker's Practice Play versions will continue to be available for your gaming enjoyment.
US based members may keep their accounts open as we plan to launch new Money Play games in the near future that will be legal under the new legislation.

For New Members:


New US based members are welcome to register for 888.com's Practice Play versions.
For the time being, new US based members will not be able to open a Money Play account.
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

It is our promise to you, our valued members, to continue providing the very best possible products and services in the online gaming industry. We will update you in advance with any new developments regarding the US legislation.




I am especially interested in this line:
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

Wonder what they have up their sleeve???

Claunchy
10-11-2006, 05:34 PM
I think they meant to say "play money games."

TimM
10-11-2006, 05:36 PM
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I am especially interested in this line:
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

Wonder what they have up their sleeve???

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Party Poker has said something similar (new offerings coming for US players)

Is online backgammon for money illegal?

How about chess?

Dunkman
10-11-2006, 05:36 PM
I don't think so, since their name for play money games is "practice play." However, as this was posted on their site a week ago, there was a big thread on it already. Try searching for it, there may be some good info in there.

1p0kerboy
10-11-2006, 05:38 PM
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US based members may keep their accounts open as we plan to launch new Money Play games in the near future that will be legal under the new legislation.


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They are planning something here.

ADS
10-11-2006, 05:40 PM
Games Not subject to chance....obviously

Same as Party

BluffTHIS!
10-11-2006, 05:45 PM
If they truly are going to let you play with existing funds in your account post-signing, then the only thing that makes sense in their later statement about the future, is that agree with the legal interpretation of TruePoker CEO and others that online poker isn't illegal by virtue of a company not accepting a bet or wager or having a stake in an outcome, but are concerned that existing means of depositing might nonetheless be viewed as illegal, and thus will be offering new options for same. However logically if one takes the attitude that online poker still isn't illegal, then transactions relating to same can't be either.

If they just had some intention to offer some hoakey form of poker or gambling different than what they offer now, then they wouldn't let US players continue to use existing balances to play post-signing.

However, whatever they plan, might be planned by Party as well, which is why they said US players don't need to close their accounts.

Coy_Roy
10-11-2006, 05:53 PM
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I am especially interested in this line:
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

Wonder what they have up their sleeve???

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Party Poker has said something similar (new offerings coming for US players)

Is online backgammon for money illegal?

How about chess?

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My strong suspicion is it will be something like this:

SKILL-BASED POKER (http://e-pokerusa.com/)

247boss
10-11-2006, 07:04 PM
who is to say, until its online and available, your guess is as good as mine

MagCFO
10-11-2006, 11:01 PM
I have a hard time believing these companies are just going to pack up and go home, especially a site with the brand value of party poker.

If it were me, and I was the majority shareholder at PP, I'm buying the coming back, getting privite investors if needed, the saying F' the US government and opening back up.

The only reason PP and 888 have to pull out is because they are public.

Copernicus
10-12-2006, 12:24 AM
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I am especially interested in this line:
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

Wonder what they have up their sleeve???

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Party Poker has said something similar (new offerings coming for US players)

Is online backgammon for money illegal?

How about chess?

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My strong suspicion is it will be something like this:

SKILL-BASED POKER (http://e-pokerusa.com/)

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duplicate poker...the most ridiculous concept ive ever seen.

SkandarAkbar
10-12-2006, 01:14 AM
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who is to say, until its online and available, your guess is as good as mine

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this belongs in the speculation forum....oh there isn't one? well there should be, it would be packed.

Bizot
10-12-2006, 02:37 PM
thats all in good if pacific had rakeback, decent games, and good software... come on party!

donger
10-12-2006, 03:15 PM
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I am especially interested in this line:
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

Wonder what they have up their sleeve???

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Party Poker has said something similar (new offerings coming for US players)

Is online backgammon for money illegal?

How about chess?

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My strong suspicion is it will be something like this:

SKILL-BASED POKER (http://e-pokerusa.com/)

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duplicate poker...the most ridiculous concept ive ever seen.

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It seems kind of cool to me. It's like the 'beat sherlock holmes' feature on TTH, where you both get dealt the same 150 hands and your goal is to make more money playing the same cards. It's nothing like regular poker, but it could be fun to mess around with.

jackaaron
10-12-2006, 03:35 PM
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I am especially interested in this line:
In the near future, 888.com plans to launch new Money Play games that will be legal under the new legislation.

Wonder what they have up their sleeve???

[/ QUOTE ]

Party Poker has said something similar (new offerings coming for US players)

Is online backgammon for money illegal?

How about chess?

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My strong suspicion is it will be something like this:

SKILL-BASED POKER (http://e-pokerusa.com/)

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duplicate poker...the most ridiculous concept ive ever seen.

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It seems kind of cool to me. It's like the 'beat sherlock holmes' feature on TTH, where you both get dealt the same 150 hands and your goal is to make more money playing the same cards. It's nothing like regular poker, but it could be fun to mess around with.

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I felt that the "skill based poker" spoke of above was no more skill based than what we play normally.

BluffTHIS!
10-12-2006, 03:40 PM
donger,

Actually from the link C_R gave, you are in a group of 4 tables in duplicate poker, which apparently seeks to use the fantasy sports exemption by basing payouts on statistical performance (beginning and ending chip counts) after the hand is over.

So you are in a limit game utg and you and your 3 same seat partners on the other tables get dealt 72o. Naturally you prudently fold as do 2 others. But the lag on the 4th table raises it and caps when reraised. The flop comes KT8r and he bets out and caps again. Same when a 2 comes on the turn, and again when a 2 comes on the river. So lag shows down his runner runner board set and beats AK, which means you and 2 other players dump to him. How fun can that be? Or even if you all held AA, just because someone else has players on his table more willing to lose more to an overpair, how is that skill and thus fun?

PairTheBoard
10-12-2006, 03:45 PM
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donger,

Actually from the link C_R gave, you are in a group of 4 tables in duplicate poker, which apparently seeks to use the fantasy sports exemption by basing payouts on statistical performance (beginning and ending chip counts) after the hand is over.

So you are in a limit game utg and you and your 3 same seat partners on the other tables get dealt 72o. Naturally you prudently fold as do 2 others. But the lag on the 4th table raises it and caps when reraised. The flop comes KT8r and he bets out and caps again. Same when a 2 comes on the turn, and again when a 2 comes on the river. So lag shows down his runner runner board set and beats AK, which means you and 2 other players dump to him. How fun can that be? Or even if you all held AA, just because someone else has players on his table more willing to lose more to an overpair, how is that skill and thus fun?

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I predict that Duplicate Poker is the Game of the Future. In at least 3 parallel Universes. But not this one.

PairTheBoard

okietalker
10-12-2006, 03:51 PM
Duplicate Poker!!!!!!

I don't think so!

Coy_Roy
10-12-2006, 03:56 PM
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Duplicate Poker!!!!!!

I don't think so!

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I won $2.00 in one of their freerolls but I really didn't enjoy it all.

The play is slow and I found myself going all-in with trash hands on the assumption that everyone else who got the same hand probably folded.

I really don't like it and have yet to spend the $2.00 on a real money game.