Two more autoplay bonuses for everyone

[KSOT]

Just in case people didn't read all 2 billion posts in the original thread.

http://www.firstwebcasino.com

300% bonus on $25 deposit
+ $25 neteller bonus
$125 starting balance

http://www.allslots.com

400% bonus on $25 deposit or 300% bonus on $50 deposit
$25 neteller bonus
$150 or $225 starting balance

They both seem pretty awesome. Same deal as the others, double up on Bacarrat or whatever you want and then grind away 60xb playing French Roulette. Credit to Halo7 for that strategy.

I had problems installing Allslots, but their tech support solved it after a few emails. Don't use GBP at either unless you live in the UK.

Do note that I busted on allslots and haven't yet played firstweb, so I can't say from experience that everything is on the up and up as far as cashouts are concerned.

I'm now 1/6 with these microgaming "sticky" bonuses, but I'll keep tryin'. Good luck all!

[grando]

you = awesome

[MadMat]

Well thats my evening sorted then when I get home from work!

Cheers!

Mat

[Dave Coulier]

Im unable to connect to either casino now. Thanks for crashing them 2+2'ers.

[sluttysteve]

sorry, just wanted to make sure the bonuses were credited before i headed off to school tomorrow!

[aka23]

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Same deal as the others, double up on Bacarrat or whatever you want and then grind away 60xb playing French Roulette.
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I'm now 1/6 with these microgaming "sticky" bonuses, but I'll keep tryin'. Good luck all!

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I know several people who have had poor results with doubling up in bacarrat like you. I'd suggest trying a different strategy this time -- bet half your bankroll on a hand of ACBJG . If you have good odds (a hand where you would usually double or split), then use your full bankroll. If you have bad odds (a hand where you would usually surrender), then cut your bet in half. If you lose, you get a second try. If you win, you have the option to stop there and claim your gain or repeat and try again. It may be a silly superstition, but I like to switch between ACBJG and ACBJ between big wins. Using this strategy I have won 11 of the 12 Grand Prive bonuses I have played in the past two weeks for a net gain of a couple thouusand.

Also, I'd recommend against playing two casino sign-on bonuses from the same group at the same time in general and especially the Jackpot Factory group (the two casinos listed in this thread are from the Jackpot Factory group). This group locked my account for bonus abuse and may do the same to you. Plenty of casinos offer this type of clearplay bonus. I rank the best ones on my site at http://www.beatingbonuses.com/bestbonus.htm

[stir]

According to Firstweb's T&C they require NOTARIZED copies of your bank statement and I. D. before you can withdraw. Haven't checked allslots yet.

[KSOT]

NOTARIZED? Holy crap that's unheard of. Where do you even get that done?

Thanks for the tip. Too bad I deposited there a half hour ago /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Oh and aka, I've actually been using craps the whole time, just cause... well... I love craps!

[stir]

Notary publics are available at all commercial banks. But personally I wouldn't do it. It smells too much like a casino attempt to hold on to deposits for an extended period of time, while they earn interest on their depositor's $$'s. It would be interesting to hear from any 2+2'ers who have experience with this casino.

[LouisCyphre]

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According to Firstweb's T&C they require NOTARIZED copies of your bank statement and I. D. before you can withdraw. Haven't checked allslots yet.

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Here's what I found. I don't see anything about notarized copies.
"Upon withdrawing at the casino you may be required to provide ID documentation such as copies of a license or credit cards, utility bill etc. Providing documentation is done in the interest of protecting our players from fraud and theft."

[stir]

It is under section 8.2 , which refers to money laundering and refers to no "substantial" withdrawals.

And who defines what is deemed to be substantial?...they do.

It is possible I am overreacting, but how many 2+2'ers have been burned time and again because they didn't read T&C's carefully?

[Dave Coulier]

These casinos are listed as acredited at Casinomeister.com so I wouldn't imagine we run into too much trouble here.

[aka23]

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According to Firstweb's T&C they require NOTARIZED copies of your bank statement and I. D. before you can withdraw. Haven't checked allslots yet.

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Here's what I found. I don't see anything about notarized copies.
"Upon withdrawing at the casino you may be required to provide ID documentation such as copies of a license or credit cards, utility bill etc. Providing documentation is done in the interest of protecting our players from fraud and theft."

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There is a big difference between "may be required" and having to provide these items. I expect that they only request ID when something looks suspicious or possibly when the player has a very large win. They put that in the T&C to insure that they can request id when needed. I've withdrawn succesfully with this group (until my accounts were locked last month, as mentioned above). Liek typical MG, they did not request me to send any type of identification before processing the withdrawls.

[KSOT]

Well my money is already comitted, so if I should happen to win (which I won't) I'll let you all know.

Hey aka, I think the calculations on your site are pretty far off. The very first one I checked was blackjack ballroom which has a +$76 ev playing French Roulette, but you list it as +$265 ev. I also checked Golden Tiger to make sure it wasn't an isolated mistake and the +ev for that one is $100 too high.

bonus X wr X HA% = ev

What formula are you using? O_o

[aka23]

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Well my money is already comitted, so if I should happen to win (which I won't) I'll let you all know.

Hey aka, I think the calculations on your site are pretty far off. The very first one I checked was blackjack ballroom which has a +$76 ev playing French Roulette, but you list it as +$265 ev. I also checked Golden Tiger to make sure it wasn't an isolated mistake and the +ev for that one is $100 too high.

bonus X wr X HA% = ev

What formula are you using? O_o

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Blackjack ballroom offers a $400 bonus + up to $50. To get the +$265 EV you have to play it like a sticky. The expected bonus retention is ~0.6xB for a Clearplay with 60xB FR playthrough. 440x~.6 = $265.

The 0.60xB involves betting it all at once as a sticky (0.5xB), then playing the remaining on FR (+0.2/2 xB). This strategy is explained on the Clearplay page (http://www.beatingbonuses.com/clearplay.htm). If you were to just playthrough the bonus without the sticky bet, the bonus retention would be ~0.2xB. (60x1.35% FR house edge = 0.81... 1-0.81 = 0.19). Your +76 is probably 400x0.19.

Note that few people would dare risk a $1000 deposit as a sticky and you'd have to modify strategy somewhat to accomodate the max table limits, so your method is more realistic for the typical person. I compute all the EVs the same way for consistency. Golden Tiger uses the same ~0.6xB EV method when played as a sticky.

I'll add an explanation on how EVs are computed in the near future. An explanation is critical for a Clearplay bonus, as the average bonus rentention can vary dramatically depending on startegy. The site has been online for 2 days now and is still a work in progress.

[Dave Coulier]

El Busto on both of these giving me a 2/5 record so far with one left to go. Hopefully I will win it.

[KSOT]

I busted firstweb. I'm 1/7 including half of twofer # 3. Ever since the first one I tried I run very very badly...

[Dave Coulier]

Maybe you should play a different game /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

[KSOT]

Almost 50% is almost 50%. I don't think the .000001 differences are going to have much of an effect on my results until I've done 10,000 of these casinos or so.

[Heartless]

Thanks for finding this. I've just tried first webcasino and one the first bet, Are my calculations right and i need to do 9090 spins to clear the bonus?

[KSOT]

Let's see... $100 bonus x 60 wr = 6000 spins (minus however much of it you cleared with the first bet)

[aka23]

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Thanks for finding this. I've just tried first webcasino and one the first bet, Are my calculations right and i need to do 9090 spins to clear the bonus?

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You can cash out your winnings any time. You do not "need" to clear the bonus. You are expected to retain 19% of the bonus if you choose to complete the playhrough of ~60xB (slightly below 60xB due to large bet at start), instead of cashing out your winnings without playing through. If you go to the withdrawl page of the banking, you can see how much you have left to wager. Multiply that # by 2, if you are playing 1$ French Roulette spins.

If you deposited by Neteller or C2P and got the additional $25, then you have a total of $75+$25 = $100 bonus. This is a playthorugh of 100x30=3000. Multiplied by 2 for French Roulette = 6000 $1 spins. If you made a single bet $200 at the start on a 10% weighed game, then the wagering is 2980x2=5960 $1 spins.

[KISS ME]

no need for ID 'S with me i cashed out 250 euro from firstweb money was in my neteller account 2 days lafter i buted in allslots ....but they got a better deal at ALLJACKPOTS CASINO its buy 50$ or euro get 200$ or euro plus 25$ or euro neteller bonus total 275 i cashed out 580euro there

[freni126]

from allslots T&C:
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* Slots, American Roulette and Parlor Games – 100%
* Table Poker games, Casino War, Sicbo and all Roulettes except American Roulette – 50%
* Video Poker games, Craps, Baccarat and all Blackjacks except Classic Blackjack – 10%
* Classic Blackjack – 2%

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This offer excludes play on all forms of Casino War, Poker, Blackjack, Baccarat , Craps, Roulette, Multi-Hand Blackjack and Sic-Bo. Wagers placed at these tables will not be deemed as fulfilling the promotion's minimum wager requirement.

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It doesn't say bonus is void if baccarat is played.. but it's contradicting itself in the T&C right.. or am I just dumb as usual? =)

isn't the EV kinda low for this bonus.. (or is it just me being dumb again =)) $100-6000*0.0135=$19? it's +EV but still 19 bucks..?

[aka23]

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This offer excludes play on all forms of Casino War, Poker, Blackjack, Baccarat , Craps, Roulette, Multi-Hand Blackjack and Sic-Bo. Wagers placed at these tables will not be deemed as fulfilling the promotion's minimum wager requirement.

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Did you not see the following statement above that:
"Welcome Bonuses received before 02:30am ET on May 30, 2006 remain subject to the original wager requirements applicable at the time the bonus was credited to the player’s account, these being as follows:"

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[freni126]

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This offer excludes play on all forms of Casino War, Poker, Blackjack, Baccarat , Craps, Roulette, Multi-Hand Blackjack and Sic-Bo. Wagers placed at these tables will not be deemed as fulfilling the promotion's minimum wager requirement.

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Did you not see the following statement above that:
"Welcome Bonuses received before 02:30am ET on May 30, 2006 remain subject to the original wager requirements applicable at the time the bonus was credited to the player’s account, these being as follows:"

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Hehe.. nop... skipped that one.. =)
So I guess it was me beeing dumb afterall... cool!

I guess I am way off in the EV question too? =)

[JuntMonkey]

I haven't done these yet, but with French Roulette keep in mind that if they don't have the "La Partage" rule or whatever it is that gives you 1/2 back on 0, the HA doubles to 2.7%.

[aka23]

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Hehe.. nop... skipped that one.. =)
So I guess it was me beeing dumb afterall... cool!

I guess I am way off in the EV question too? =)

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Your EV estimate was $19. That's the correct value for playing through the bonus on FR, but the expected return is ~$60, if you bet the bonus first, as I discussed earlier.

Let's take an example.
Bet all of the $100 bonus and $25 deposit on a hand of bacarrat/craps/roulette/BJ.

Half the time you win and have a bankroll of $250
If you play through the bonus at this point, you are expected to end near $170. This is a net gain of $145 on the $25 deposit. Half the time you gain $145 and half the time you lose $25. The EV with this method is ($145-$25)/2 = ~$60 . This is ~0.6xB as I listed in my EV table.

If you were to bet the bonus twice instead of stopping after one win, then the EV increases to ~0.8xB however, you would lose 75% of the time. In this way, the EV varies depending on how many times you bet the bonus before playing it through. If you bet it an infinite number of times, you would approach an EV of B while and a 100% loss rate.

In this way the EV varies with your strategy. It could be anywhere from 0.19xB to 1xB. ~0.6xB with a single full bankroll bet or two half bankroll bets is a good balance between loss rate and bonus retention.

[aka23]

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I haven't done these yet, but with French Roulette keep in mind that if they don't have the "La Partage" rule or whatever it is that gives you 1/2 back on 0, the HA doubles to 2.7%.

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French Roulette was selected over European Roulette becuase of the LP rule.

[freni126]

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Hehe.. nop... skipped that one.. =)
So I guess it was me beeing dumb afterall... cool!

I guess I am way off in the EV question too? =)

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Your EV estimate was $19. That's the correct value for playing through the bonus on FR, but the expected return is ~$60, if you bet the bonus first, as I discussed earlier.

Let's take an example.
Bet all of the $100 bonus and $25 deposit on a hand of bacarrat/craps/roulette/BJ.

Half the time you win and have a bankroll of $250
If you play through the bonus at this point, you are expected to end near $170. This is a net gain of $145 on the $25 deposit. Half the time you gain $145 and half the time you lose $25. The EV with this method is ($145-$25)/2 = ~$60 . This is ~0.6xB as I listed in my EV table.

If you were to bet the bonus twice instead of stopping after one win, then the EV increases to ~0.8xB however, you would lose 75% of the time. In this way, the EV varies depending on how many times you bet the bonus before playing it through. If you bet it an infinite number of times, you would approach an EV of B while and a 100% loss rate.

In this way the EV varies with your strategy. It could be anywhere from 0.19xB to 1xB. ~0.6xB with a single full bankroll bet or two half bankroll bets is a good balance between loss rate and bonus retention.

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Ahh... thanks! Made it much clearer for me... and now I know why I did it.. =)
Ended up at 135 (starting from 239).. so I guess a bit below EV right but still made a decent chunk of cash. 2/5 now... I envy you guys who are 4/5 or so... you must have made lots and lots of money?! =)

[Jeff_B]

If I have a pending bonsu like this and I get it done before friday will they still honor my withdraw? (I am a us citizen)

[ImsaKidd]

It looks like allslots you cant do any good games to complete the WR. ANyone actually cashed out from them?

[maniacut]

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It looks like allslots you cant do any good games to complete the WR. ANyone actually cashed out from them?

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french roulette autoplay? I'm waiting for my cashout

[freni126]

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It looks like allslots you cant do any good games to complete the WR. ANyone actually cashed out from them?

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french roulette autoplay? I'm waiting for my cashout

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dito

[Toasta]

i got $100 bonus + $25 neteller bonus + $25 cashin, all 150 on baccara now or just 125 as mentioned above ?

[maniacut]

Bet 150. Why would you want to leave 25 behind if you lose the bet?

[SoloAJ]

Waiting for bonuses to be credited.

1/4 so far...

Hoping to be at EV after these two... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[dreq]

50% right for french roulette.... that means... 600 spins for $10.... If I am going to lose about $64 on 5000 spins... I estimate I will lose about 115 on 9000 spins.... If I deposited 50 and got the 150 bonus.

Is it worth it to spin or just withdrawl after taking the baccarat win?

[KSOT]

You're passing on free money if you withdraw after your first bet, but it's up to you...

[freni126]

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50% right for french roulette.... that means... 600 spins for $10.... If I am going to lose about $64 on 5000 spins... I estimate I will lose about 115 on 9000 spins.... If I deposited 50 and got the 150 bonus.

Is it worth it to spin or just withdrawl after taking the baccarat win?

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I asked Live Chat if this was possible. It looks like it should be since the winnings from the bacarat bet go inte cash and not bonus. Live chat said this would not be allowed... and I think it's kinda obvious... they would e giving money away (almost)..

[Dave Coulier]

I think ive had enough of Bacarrat to last me a life time. Im now 2/6 and I have lost my last 6 bacarrat hands that I have played.

[Jeff_B]

for all slots
uhh why are you guys doing french roulette? it counts 50%?
why not american?

French HA I believe someone PLEASE double check this is 1.3514%.

American HA again I believe to be 5.26% are these two correct?

If so American roulette is a crap game and french is the way to go despite it being 2x the WR.

Anyone want to confirm/deny this?


also anyone have a time frame on the two bonuses being credit? I got the $25 bonus for neteller from all slots but no sign of the other $75?

[Dave Coulier]

The neteller bonus shows up before your deposit bonus does.

[sunnypoker]

ok what do i bet when i'm doing French betting
can someone cliffnote what i should do :S its painful reading through this thread because there's loads of other stuff mixed in, etc

[Halo7]

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If so American roulette is a crap game and french is the way to go despite it being 2x the WR.

Anyone want to confirm/deny this?


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Confirmed. French Roulette is the way to go if it is allowed at 50%.

Halo7

[Jeff_B]

complete side note: anyone have a strategy for poker ride? I was just bored and played it with 50 cent anti and I made like $75 .... I checked wizard of odds to no avail..

still waiting on my bonuses.

[SoloAJ]

So, I played 6 Baccarat Bonus Casinos.....

I won once. Maybe I should start betting on the player.

I don't like variance anymore. I finished down $30 after 6 of them. WTF lamez0rs.

[Jeff_B]

blah I was up decent on one but casino war is evil..
then lost the second bacarat bet /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[aka23]

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ok what do i bet when i'm doing French betting
can someone cliffnote what i should do :S its painful reading through this thread because there's loads of other stuff mixed in, etc

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Bet $1 on a 1:1 pay option (I like red) and set it on autoplay. I recommend playing until the first $10 of the bonus is converted to cash and seeing where things stand before continuing. You may have already played a chunk of this wagering with your big bets. If you don't want to risk any more of your winnings for the expected additional $17 gain on the FirstWeb bonus or additional $25 on the allslots bonus, then stop, make a few house min bets, and cash out. If you want to continue, then set it on autoplay again.

[1C5]

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So, I played 6 Baccarat Bonus Casinos.....

I won once. Maybe I should start betting on the player.

I don't like variance anymore. I finished down $30 after 6 of them. WTF lamez0rs.

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Glad I am not the only one. I am heading down this same path.

Losing all the baccarat and also lost $500 in BJ in 20 minutes betting $20/hand every hand. I didn't think variance that bad was possible but alas, it is.

[SoloAJ]

I'm now 1 for 7.

I just did Vegas Palms Casino. Not sure if that is listed in the twofers and all that. In fact I didn't look TOO hard at it to know if it is reputable. Doesn't matter, I busted the Baccarat.

[censored] player winning all the time.

[Jeff_B]

wow 1 for 7. You must have horrible karma I've got like 4 for 6 with like 3 of them being cashouts for >1000+ and the other pissed away. Eh i dont really know but its much better then 1 for 7.

What did you do in your past life?

[SoloAJ]

Not believing in reincarnation might have done it.
Or perhaps being agnostic.
I don't know.

I am the most strict "by the book" whore you'll ever meet too. And yet...betting the banker...I don't know ANYTHING about baccarat. But I'm starting to wonder if you guys were just playing a sick joke on me telling me to play the Bank.

For what its worth...I don't know the EV exactly of the 7..but I finished down $70.

Not bad I guess going 1 for 7.

[aka23]

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So, I played 6 Baccarat Bonus Casinos.....

I won once. Maybe I should start betting on the player.

I don't like variance anymore. I finished down $30 after 6 of them. WTF lamez0rs.

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Glad I am not the only one. I am heading down this same path.

Losing all the baccarat and also lost $500 in BJ in 20 minutes betting $20/hand every hand. I didn't think variance that bad was possible but alas, it is.

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I'm now 1 for 7.

I just did Vegas Palms Casino. Not sure if that is listed in the twofers and all that. In fact I didn't look TOO hard at it to know if it is reputable. Doesn't matter, I busted the Baccarat.

[censored] player winning all the time.

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As I posted earlier, why not try a different game? Grand Prive has sent me 12 50-100% match offers since 9/30. I have won with all but 1 of these 12 playing half-bankroll ACBJG --> ACBJ, rather than bacarrat. I usually play until I at least double my bankroll with smaller deposits. I am more cautions with $200+ deposits, and usually stop after a single half-bankroll win.

[SoloAJ]

Well I'm probably calling quits for now. -$70 isn't too bad for going 1 for 7. Nature of the sticky. Just sucks that I'm not getting my piece of the pie.

(FWIW, BBV: My casino whoring EV is above 7K...my actual profit is around 4.5K....and being very strict about playing everything right.)

That is all, no more BBV from me.

[Nonfiction]

I love you guys, doin both now

[dreq]

so I finally busted out.... 4 out of 5 wa hooo......

[Jeff_B]

okay okay solo betting the bank is like the worst bet possible 2% chance to double your money. Sorry I know it was mean.

Also I LOVE whoring I busted out my deposit.. did some work got an email you have $75 bonus in your account. Ran it up to >300 playing casino war and martigale then cashed

profit $300.50

[Nonfiction]

Both first web and all slots gave me a $25 bonus on my $25 deposit instead of the real bonus. WTF? Emailed support, waitin for response.

[SoloAJ]

nonfiction...you will get a bigger bonus in a bit (assuming you claimed the bonus)

[Nonfiction]

Ahh kk, its sent in chunks I guess?

[Ken_AA]

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Ahh kk, its sent in chunks I guess?

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The neteller one is given quickly, the other one you have to wait for after requesting it.

Anyways, I'm probably an idiot. I played a few rolls of roulete, had 150 in my cash account and cashed out. I didn;t feel like figuring the rest of the stradegy out. 125 profit for me makes me happy. this wipes out last nights poker run where I got it all in post flop with a set verses and over pair 5 times and got sucked out on by the two outer 4 times.

I'm gonna sign up at all slots now.

Ken

[Jeff_B]

Anyone think it would be better to flat bet $25 at the casino war or to martigale it with $5 principle and if I lost $80 I give up and go back to $5?

[Nonfiction]

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Ahh kk, its sent in chunks I guess?

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The neteller one is given quickly, the other one you have to wait for after requesting it.

Anyways, I'm probably an idiot. I played a few rolls of roulete, had 150 in my cash account and cashed out. I didn;t feel like figuring the rest of the stradegy out. 125 profit for me makes me happy. this wipes out last nights poker run where I got it all in post flop with a set verses and over pair 5 times and got sucked out on by the two outer 4 times.

I'm gonna sign up at all slots now.

Ken

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Well thing is, I did firepay not neteller (maryland 4tl), which is why the $25 bonus is a bit weird, its like they gave me the neteller bonus without me using it.

[Ken_AA]

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Ahh kk, its sent in chunks I guess?

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The neteller one is given quickly, the other one you have to wait for after requesting it.

Anyways, I'm probably an idiot. I played a few rolls of roulete, had 150 in my cash account and cashed out. I didn;t feel like figuring the rest of the stradegy out. 125 profit for me makes me happy. this wipes out last nights poker run where I got it all in post flop with a set verses and over pair 5 times and got sucked out on by the two outer 4 times.

I'm gonna sign up at all slots now.

Ken

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Well thing is, I did firepay not neteller (maryland 4tl), which is why the $25 bonus is a bit weird, its like they gave me the neteller bonus without me using it.

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Any PERFERED depsosit method gets the extra 25, firepay is one of them..... http://www.firstwebcasino.com/banking.php

Ken

[Folding Pete]

Thanks to KISS ME for the heads up on ALLSLOTSCASINO.

I deposited Euro50 and got Euro225 in Bonus (including Neteller Bonus).

I can confirm they have French Roulette with the 0 rule.

For some strange reason I cannot now connect direct to using their software but I can log on using their Flash Casino.

Problem is that the Bacaratt bets are in exponential increments. I want to bet the Euro 275 but can only bet 200 or 300. Likewise on French Roulette the max bet is 80.

Whats the best option EV wise? Is it worth depositing another 25 for the 300 bet?

Always be folding

[chopstick]

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I think ive had enough of Bacarrat to last me a life time. Im now 2/6 and I have lost my last 6 bacarrat hands that I have played.

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But that just means that now you are due!

[Nonfiction]

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Ahh kk, its sent in chunks I guess?

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The neteller one is given quickly, the other one you have to wait for after requesting it.

Anyways, I'm probably an idiot. I played a few rolls of roulete, had 150 in my cash account and cashed out. I didn;t feel like figuring the rest of the stradegy out. 125 profit for me makes me happy. this wipes out last nights poker run where I got it all in post flop with a set verses and over pair 5 times and got sucked out on by the two outer 4 times.

I'm gonna sign up at all slots now.

Ken

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Well thing is, I did firepay not neteller (maryland 4tl), which is why the $25 bonus is a bit weird, its like they gave me the neteller bonus without me using it.

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Any PERFERED depsosit method gets the extra 25, firepay is one of them..... http://www.firstwebcasino.com/banking.php
Ken

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Ahhhh thx Ken. Still didn't get the bonus tho, been 4+ hours :/

[lotus guardian]

Did you claim it at their website?

[Escape]

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Well I'm probably calling quits for now. -$70 isn't too bad for going 1 for 7. Nature of the sticky. Just sucks that I'm not getting my piece of the pie.

(FWIW, BBV: My casino whoring EV is above 7K...my actual profit is around 4.5K....and being very strict about playing everything right.)

That is all, no more BBV from me.

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You look a lot like me /images/graemlins/frown.gif Im down 1.7k ev in my last months of whoring.

[MadMat]

did 5 of these clearplay bonuses last night, total deposits $235 - busted 3, cashed out $374 and £175 (was able to deposit in £ at 2 of them)

Not a bad nights work - about $490 profit overall (and I won another $35 playing poker while minding the autoplays /images/graemlins/smile.gif )

These are fun!

Mat

[Folding Pete]

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Thanks to KISS ME for the heads up on ALLSLOTSCASINO

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Sorry this should be 'alljackpotscasino'.

[mosuavea]

Lost both bankers, not even close. Thanks anyways OP!

[lwlee]

Am I missing something? firstwebcasino seems to only offer $75 for $25 deposit. allsots has $150 for $50 deposit. It doesn't seem as good as deal.

[KSOT]

Nobody said it was as good as deal. It's worse than twofer 1, better than twofer 2. You're forgetting the neteller bonuses too.

[rsigley]

somehow i accidently bet $225 on tie instead of banker and hit it, ended up with 2025. now gotta grind the roulette

makes up for the 0/6 i was before this

[lunatic4]

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somehow i accidently bet $225 on tie instead of banker and hit it, ended up with 2025. now gotta grind the roulette

makes up for the 0/6 i was before this

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I think there's a reason you went 0 for 6 /images/graemlins/wink.gif

(know it's my first post but I couldn't resist)

Hit up All Slots for 50, won the bet then grinded the roulette. When I was done my balance was 81. Up is up I guess. Thanks OP.

[midwestkc]

Well, I'm 4/5 on these on the Banker bet so far, but AllSlots made me want to cry. I make the bet, win, then set the autoplay on FR. Variance then decided to kick my ass, and I ended up only cashing out 142. Still $92 profit, but damn...What are the odds of losing that much? (I'm sure it's not that far out of the realm of possibility, but still).

[rsigley]

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somehow i accidently bet $225 on tie instead of banker and hit it, ended up with 2025. now gotta grind the roulette

makes up for the 0/6 i was before this

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I think there's a reason you went 0 for 6 /images/graemlins/wink.gif

(know it's my first post but I couldn't resist)

Hit up All Slots for 50, won the bet then grinded the roulette. When I was done my balance was 81. Up is up I guess. Thanks OP.

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haha yea, i bet on the banker the other 6 times /images/graemlins/smile.gif

i was running too much and this computer is slow so the mouse was moving sluggish then next thing i know im clicking tie not banker like i thought

[Nonfiction]

Hit on allslots missed on first web.

[Jeff_B]

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somehow i accidently bet $225 on tie instead of banker and hit it, ended up with 2025. now gotta grind the roulette

makes up for the 0/6 i was before this

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I think there's a reason you went 0 for 6 /images/graemlins/wink.gif

(know it's my first post but I couldn't resist)

Hit up All Slots for 50, won the bet then grinded the roulette. When I was done my balance was 81. Up is up I guess. Thanks OP.

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haha yea, i bet on the banker the other 6 times /images/graemlins/smile.gif

i was running too much and this computer is slow so the mouse was moving sluggish then next thing i know im clicking tie not banker like i thought

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Wow that would make this like a really really nice bonus like a huge return on investment.

I would say good job but its more like GREAT LUCK.

glad it worked out for you though.

[freni126]

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Well, I'm 4/5 on these on the Banker bet so far, but AllSlots made me want to cry. I make the bet, win, then set the autoplay on FR. Variance then decided to kick my ass, and I ended up only cashing out 142. Still $92 profit, but damn...What are the odds of losing that much? (I'm sure it's not that far out of the realm of possibility, but still).

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It is below EV but not that much.. you had a WR of about 7500 right? 7500*0.0135=101.25 so you should end up at around $189...
Be glad you have hit 4/5... most of us have at best 50%.. 4/5 is way over expectation.. =)

I have 4/7.. (the seventh from a gnome)

[ImsaKidd]

All:

You should gambool more (like go for 3x or 4x start balance, not 2x) for more EV. I've been shooting for 3x starting balance for anything below $200, which is all of these. The EV increase is pretty substantial.

[Jeff_B]

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All:

You should gambool more (like go for 3x or 4x start balance, not 2x) for more EV. I've been shooting for 3x starting balance for anything below $200, which is all of these. The EV increase is pretty substantial.

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Are you saying we should bet it all on the banker twice and pray? I thought about this but I have pissed away way tooo many bonuses being greedy trying to make a quick $1000 although it is very very nice when it works /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[GeterPriffin]

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It is below EV but not that much.. you had a WR of about 7500 right? 7500*0.0135=101.25 so you should end up at around $189...
Be glad you have hit 4/5... most of us have at best 50%.. 4/5 is way over expectation.. =)

I have 4/7.. (the seventh from a gnome)

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Man my luck is horrible now. I won the 1st 2, but the last 6 ive busted out. 2/8 now.

[Toasta]

hi,

cleared 1300/7500 spins, im 8$ up and cleared 20$ form the bonus, from roulette teh ev is 19% from the bonus, should i stop now or go on ?

cash : 202.50
bonus: 105.00

[lwlee]

Gotcha. I think I'll give it a try.

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Nobody said it was as good as deal. It's worse than twofer 1, better than twofer 2. You're forgetting the neteller bonuses too.

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[Packard]

Anyone else getting very slow cashouts from the twofers? Lucky Nugget and Jackpot Factory were taking a long time then they redeposited my cashout money back in.

Yes both WR's were surpassed.

Anyone else getting problems with the cashouts at those places?

[batmanoflove]

Lucky Nugget is taking forever on me, i hit like $300+ and cashed out on monday, its thursday and am still waiting for the money.

[Jibba]

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Lucky Nugget is taking forever on me, i hit like $300+ and cashed out on monday, its thursday and am still waiting for the money.

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They paid me no problem. I don't think you have much to worry about with them.

[Nonfiction]

3/6 on the twofers, hurray variance!

[sluttysteve]

i have pending cashouts at riverbelle and jackpot city, kinda scared cause a few of my accounts got locked for gnoming.

yeah i suck.

[lwlee]

Gaming Club and RiverBelle are still pending. Checking transaction history shows that it's a work in progress.

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Anyone else getting very slow cashouts from the twofers? Lucky Nugget and Jackpot Factory were taking a long time then they redeposited my cashout money back in.

Yes both WR's were surpassed.

Anyone else getting problems with the cashouts at those places?

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[Escape]

SDKJLFDS
0/2

[acewan]

Missed on Firstweb, hit on Allslots, tried to double up again (from $290) but missed the second double-up.

[Escape]

0/3 ~~

[ryanj247]

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I know several people who have had poor results with doubling up in bacarrat like you. I'd suggest trying a different strategy this time -- bet half your bankroll on a hand of ACBJG . If you have good odds (a hand where you would usually double or split), then use your full bankroll. If you have bad odds (a hand where you would usually surrender), then cut your bet in half. If you lose, you get a second try. If you win, you have the option to stop there and claim your gain or repeat and try again. It may be a silly superstition, but I like to switch between ACBJG and ACBJ between big wins. Using this strategy I have won 11 of the 12 Grand Prive bonuses I have played in the past two weeks for a net gain of a couple thouusand.


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i don't know much of anything about blackjack. if i bet 1/2 my bankroll and get a hand dealt to me, how do i then "cut my bet in half" if it's a situation where i would normally surrender? do you just mean i should go ahead and surrender? and in situations where i would normally double, by "use your full bankroll" you just mean go ahead and double? i assume for all other situations you just go ahead and play basic strategy with the 1/2 BR bet?

[aka23]

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I know several people who have had poor results with doubling up in bacarrat like you. I'd suggest trying a different strategy this time -- bet half your bankroll on a hand of ACBJG . If you have good odds (a hand where you would usually double or split), then use your full bankroll. If you have bad odds (a hand where you would usually surrender), then cut your bet in half. If you lose, you get a second try. If you win, you have the option to stop there and claim your gain or repeat and try again. It may be a silly superstition, but I like to switch between ACBJG and ACBJ between big wins. Using this strategy I have won 11 of the 12 Grand Prive bonuses I have played in the past two weeks for a net gain of a couple thouusand.


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i don't know much of anything about blackjack. if i bet 1/2 my bankroll and get a hand dealt to me, how do i then "cut my bet in half" if it's a situation where i would normally surrender? do you just mean i should go ahead and surrender? and in situations where i would normally double, by "use your full bankroll" you just mean go ahead and double? i assume for all other situations you just go ahead and play basic strategy with the 1/2 BR bet?

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I pharsed that poorly. I meant just play like your normally would with doubling, splitting, and surrendering. Your bet doubles on a double/split and you lose half of your bet on a surrender. I was trying to ephasize how the multiple bet sizes differ from a fixed bet size in bacarrat/craps/roulette .

In any case, I have played dozens of Clearplay bonuses with this system and come out ahead significantly more than statistically expected.

[rsigley]

anyone get paid from allslots yet?

[godofgamblers]

I did allslots a while ago and it took about 3 days.

[Nonfiction]

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anyone get paid from allslots yet?

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Still waiting, cashed out on wednesday

[rsigley]

ah thanks got paid this morning, almost exactly three days from when i requested it /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ColdDecker333]

Allslots reversed my withdrawal back to my account. I try to withdrawal now again.

[kypreanus]

I was unable to bet 125 when playing baccarat. The nearest amount I could bet was 120. Lost that anyway. lol.

[veganmav]

Sorry i'm late in this thread, so I can just bet all my money on baccarat on allslots, and firstweb? is this still work?

[freni126]

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Sorry i'm late in this thread, so I can just bet all my money on baccarat on allslots, and firstweb? is this still work?

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I did it yesterday and was paid today (from both) so it should be all right..

I didn't figure out how to bet it all at allslots though... is it even possible to put the full ammount (125) on one bet?

[jaybird]

I hit one of the 2, so I'm now 4/7.

Will any of these casinos reject my cashout request if I just cashout after doing the one double-up bet?

[midwestkc]

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Sorry i'm late in this thread, so I can just bet all my money on baccarat on allslots, and firstweb? is this still work?

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I did it yesterday and was paid today (from both) so it should be all right..

I didn't figure out how to bet it all at allslots though... is it even possible to put the full ammount (125) on one bet?

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Use High limit Baccarat. They have $25 Chips that you can use.

[froggy527]

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Sorry i'm late in this thread, so I can just bet all my money on baccarat on allslots, and firstweb? is this still work?

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I did it yesterday and was paid today (from both) so it should be all right..

I didn't figure out how to bet it all at allslots though... is it even possible to put the full ammount (125) on one bet?

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I did the same thing! Busted out and had $25 left,went to
blackjack and bet $25 Seven hands later I was back over
$200. Went back and hit the Bac dealer bet!

[EdmVan]

After beginning 0/7 I hit 3 of my last 4 to go 3/11 and Im up +679. Pretty good considering the back variance at the beginning....

[koolsavas]

0/4 -120

killer.

[Elandriel]

hmm,, im a beginner at bonuswhoring, can someone please explain what the 0/6 numbers mean?

[jaybird]

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hmm,, im a beginner at bonuswhoring, can someone please explain what the 0/6 numbers mean?

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it just means they are 0 for 6 when doubling up on the initial bet (deposit + bonus).

I've been pretty lucky. 7/10, up over $1200. Still waiting for some to hit neteller.

[Toasta]

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anyone get paid from allslots yet?

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yep, cleared 1300/7500 spins, ended up with +8$ from roulete and +20$ bonus cleared.

cash : 202.50
bonus: 105.00

-> 202.5 arrived at neteller about ~40h later

[Nonfiction]

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anyone get paid from allslots yet?

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yep, cleared 1300/7500 spins, ended up with +8$ from roulete and +20$ bonus cleared.

cash : 202.50
bonus: 105.00

-> 202.5 arrived at neteller about ~40h later

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Still waiting for mine, been a week, fired off an email to CS and they responded with some generic crap about if i want to reset my password please give ___ info.

[freni126]

I did allslots three times last week. Got paid within hours..(after the first 24h had passed)...
I didn't play any of the WR.. just doubled up and cashed out and it was fine so if I got paid I can't see why not anyone should be.. =)

[dreq]

Still waiting for jackpot casino to be released to neteller. Was told it was released on Oct 9th, but still hasn't hit neteller. Wagered $50 waiting on my $152 to get out.....

Didn't do casino share, but triton was a hit for me as well.

[StavrosT]

I am a complete casino bonus whoring newb. With that in mind, can anyone possibly walk me through step-by-step what I'd have to do in this bonus promo?
Seriously, I'd really appreciate it.

[KSOT]

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I am a complete casino bonus whoring newb. With that in mind, can anyone possibly walk me through step-by-step what I'd have to do in this bonus promo?
Seriously, I'd really appreciate it.

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You more or less follow the strategy detailed here. Be sure to do the other "twofers" on his site as well.

http://casinobonuswhores.com/twofer2.html