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Novles
10-09-2006, 10:34 AM
Villain is 21/10/2 over ~300 hands. Have seen him float, but other than that, seems pretty straightforward and unimaginative. I’ve been very active but haven’t shown down a hand. I hate this [censored] spot, he’s got a little more than PSB left.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $249.15
UTG +1: $184.85
CO: $207
Button: $200
SB: $114.05
Hero: $304.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif K/images/graemlins/heart.gif
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $7</font>, 4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $27</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: 3/images/graemlins/club.gif K/images/graemlins/club.gif 7/images/graemlins/club.gif ($55, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $48</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: 10/images/graemlins/club.gif ($151, 2 players)
Hero?
oyvindgee
10-09-2006, 10:39 AM
Check, call if he gives you odds to fill up, otherwise fold. If he had a made hand on the flop without a club he will hate that card as much as you do, if he didn't then he just made his flush.
jk3a
10-09-2006, 10:44 AM
I'm not sure how anything but check is an option here. It would likely take two barrels which you're not firing to get him to lay down the 2nd or 3rd nuts. Definitely c/c if he doesn't make a bet that's too big. Reevaluate river. Sorry, this spot really does suck.
olof86
10-09-2006, 10:54 AM
Well, since he got position on you he could win the hand even if he not got the club, and there's not much you can do about it. c/c if it's not too expensive, and see what he does on the river.
orange
10-09-2006, 12:30 PM
c/c reasonable bet, c/f to a big one. i doubt we are getting paid here if we hit our boat.
74o_Clownsuit
10-09-2006, 01:33 PM
Hope that he has an underset. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
Novles
10-09-2006, 04:08 PM
OK, well I checked and prayed for a free/cheap card and dude gave it to me and I filled. What's the consensus? VB, Push, c/r ai?

Turn: 10/images/graemlins/club.gif ($151, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River: 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($151, 2 players)
Hero?
p-i
10-09-2006, 05:11 PM
VB $80, call push (but he's folding anyway, meh).

I think a push lets A/images/graemlins/club.gif off too easy and for a c/r to be good he needs to be aggressive enough to bluff this river. I think he'll call a VB with A/images/graemlins/club.gif and push with underfulls.
oyvindgee
10-09-2006, 05:34 PM
Yeah, 80 looks about right.
bilbo-san
10-09-2006, 06:25 PM
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VB $80, call push (but he's folding anyway, meh).

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Call a push? With the nut boat, I think this advice is [hopefully] not necessary.

It's hard for me to think of ANY hand that calls $80 but does not bet if we check, so I c/r push.

Since he's folding so many hands anyway, you don't miss value if he checks, unless he's really retarded enough to call a bet on the flop with somehing like J/images/graemlins/club.gifJX, AND retarded enough to call a river bet with it here.
orange
10-09-2006, 06:28 PM
Bet the river...I don't like c/r because of the turn action.
bilbo-san
10-09-2006, 06:36 PM
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Bet the river...I don't like c/r because of the turn action.

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You think Villain checks behind with A/images/graemlins/club.gif? What other hands call a bet?