Italy's Example help at all?

[Copernicus]

My understanding is Italy turned a legislated ban into a regulate/tax situation in a matter of months.

Does anyone know how/why that happened, and could the same pressures be applied here?

[fsuplayer]

oooo details plz!

[davmcg]

I'm pretty sure Italy's ban broke EU trading rules. Also the "ban" didn't appear to have any effect on reducing the number of Italian players.

[Herrigel]

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oooo details plz!

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thread (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=7459410&page=)

[BluffTHIS!]

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Also the "ban" didn't appear to have any effect on reducing the number of Italian players.

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Now that's something actually likely to have a future impact if as we all hope all of us and the fish can find ways to keep depositing and playing. Prohibition ended because they just couldn't stop the sale of alcohol and drinking.

[Copernicus]

It looks like EU rules was the problem.

These guys missed the boat day before yesterday:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2006/9/italy-legalize-regulate-online-poker.htm

[disjunction]

Now that it is done, getting this bill reversed in any way is going to be a bear.

[chicagoY]

Their way is far too sensible for us.

[mdrudeen]

what is the status of the study bill?

This looks like the best way that we all can lobby towards something positive

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

I dont see the religous right every allowing online poker to be legalized in the USA.

[Saku]

What about some kind of overturn based on the "germaneness rule"? Two Reps called King out by asking what the Gaming Ban has to do with Port Security and he didn't have an answer. By law couldn't you say that it had absolutely no place in the bill?

[Richas]

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It looks like EU rules was the problem.

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Not just the EU rules it's also the WTO. Now that you have this law the US is in even clearer breach of your WTO obligations. You will get fined and or have sanctions imposed for this - it is another way that you can put pressure on your government - complain to the WTO now that as a US consumer you want access to international gambling services and don't want to be forced to open a non US based bank account.

If poker is legal anywhere in the US it is a breach of WTO regulations to prevent people accessing foreign based providers. Same for sports betting.

http://www.wto.org/english/thewto_e/whatis_e/whatis_e.htm

[MicroBob]

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What about some kind of overturn based on the "germaneness rule"? Two Reps called King out by asking what the Gaming Ban has to do with Port Security and he didn't have an answer. By law couldn't you say that it had absolutely no place in the bill?

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they argue that online-gambling can be used as a money-laundering mechanism for terrorism.
This helps it relate more closely to port-authority.


I don't know much about the legislative process nor the 'germaneness' law.
But I thoguht that totally ridiculous and stupid attachments that had absolutely nothing to do with the original bill got snuck in all the time.


In other words, it wouldn't have surprised me if the Port Authority bill also had some random pork-legislation piece at the end that dedicated $20-million to Wyoming to study the sturdyness of cowboy hats.

[mdrudeen]

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I dont see the religous right every allowing online poker to be legalized in the USA.

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Luckily they don't get to decide

[Golden]

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I dont see the religous right every allowing online poker to be legalized in the USA.

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Luckily they don't get to decide

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They did though didn't they? And if you are talking about the WTO, hasn't the US typically laughed in their face?

On the crooks in congress:
We vote the senators in, and they are supposed to represent us, but instead they vote for things that are best for their cause.