Hand I couldnt get away from

[HumanACtor]

At what street do we dump this, or do you like this call down?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($65.80)
Hero ($53.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Button posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button (poster) raises to $7</font>, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($14) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $13</font>, Hero calls $13.
(trying to buy this with KK or QQ?)

Turn: ($40) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $34</font>, Hero calls $33.60 (All-In).

River: ($107.60) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $107.60

[EMc]

Fold PF to that re-raise. You are setting yourself up for a massively -ev decision in the hand.

[MortenTA]

you have no reads on villain?

I would bet out on the flop. You hit your hand good and if your raised I would just let it go.

[matrix]

fold preflop.

villain may be 2p2 but even then he's not playing back at you nearly as much as you think.

[HumanACtor]

[ QUOTE ]
fold preflop.

villain may be 2p2 but even then he's not playing back at you nearly as much as you think.

[/ QUOTE ]

What do you think is the standard pf 3bet range of non 2p2ers/donks?

[Antinome]

AQ+, JJ+

[mattnxtc]

whats your read on the villian? This could be huge in your decision making

this should have been dumped preflop but i think your biggest mistake is calling the ai on the turn...this is generally ak at the least.

[ColdSteel]

"(trying to buy this with KK or QQ?)"

Why do you refuse to believe that he might actually have an ace?

I dump this preflop. The reason is now you might have to felt this, but theres a great chance your opponent has at least TPTK.

[ASPoker8]

I fold preflop. If I call, I bet the flop, and if raised, fold.

I hate the flat call on the flop. You need some sort of information to see if he has AK or JJ-KK.

[ImsaKidd]

We're really folding AQ HU preflop?

I think this thread belongs in the HU forum, no?

[Shaddux]

Lead flop. Fold to raise.

[HumanACtor]

[ QUOTE ]
We're really folding AQ HU preflop?

I think this thread belongs in the HU forum, no?

[/ QUOTE ]

the game had just collapsed like 1 or 2 hands before and still had that lingering 6max feel.

[lacrymosa]

I'm not much of a HU player, but I think it's a bit weak folding AQ preflop. I agree with leading the flop and folding to a raise though.

[Yaboosh]

I am thinking those advocating the fold preflop did not notice that it was heads up.

[Acein8ter]

I say you Cbet the flop, when it comes back with a pot sized or overbet, fold. I'd put him on AKs / AA... His agg PR raise should tell you something...

[xwillience]

[ QUOTE ]
I am thinking those advocating the fold preflop did not notice that it was heads up.

[/ QUOTE ]


interesting.....

[Yaboosh]

You disagree? Are you suggesting that the likelyhood that the villain didn't adjust properly to heads up play so that his range is just as tight as with a 6 max table makes this a fold?

[xwillience]

[ QUOTE ]
You disagree? Are you suggesting that the likelyhood that the villain didn't adjust properly to heads up play so that his range is just as tight as with a 6 max table makes this a fold?

[/ QUOTE ]


jesus, you infer a lot from a single word response. I havent actually commented strategically on this post.

[Yaboosh]

All I inferred from your response was sarcasm, so I led logically from that by suggesting what you might mean by your sarcasm.

Either way, I am not too worried about it, just trying to get some discussion going here. So, since you admittedly haven't yet commented strategically, what do you think?



Edit: Also, even if your response wasn't sarcasm, my response to what I thought was sarcasm is still live. If this was very soon after a breakup of a table, the player may still be playing his normal 6 max game so the heads up factor may be less important, so it is still something to think about.

[xwillience]

I have no idea how to play heads up. therefore, Im not going to bother commenting on it.


It was interesting that no one caught onto that until the end of this thread. its verypossible that villain is playing a hyper aggressive HU game, or maybe he has AA and is pushing hard for a reason. dunno hwo to comment anymore than that sorry.

[Antinome]

Reading this as HU play makes the play pretty reasonable.

Reading it a 6-max it should probably be a fold.

This is a pretty neat problem, it hinges on whether Villian knows to adjust his ranges HU.

I don't know if anyone can really answer this.

[kaz2107]

assuming this is hu it is extremely difficult to decide how to play this hand. hu is a game of reads and feel. with out a read and assuming this is an average 50nl player i think i just call down and hate life the whole time

[xwillience]

[ QUOTE ]
This is a pretty neat problem, it hinges on whether Villian knows to adjust his ranges HU.

I don't know if anyone can really answer this.

[/ QUOTE ]


this is what I was thinking.

[JackAll]

HU is a very different game even than with 3 players. And you really need to give reads and the flow of the game when this hand occurred. From my limited HU experience I think this is standard. I think would want it all in. But as I said - my HU experience is very limited.

6-max fold to pf raise and c/fold turn.