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dodgybob
09-23-2006, 06:46 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($7.45)
SB ($4)
BB ($2)
UTG ($9.90)
UTG+1 ($14.85)
MP1 ($4.85)
MP2 ($9.95)
MP3 ($21.05)
Hero ($14.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.4</font>, MP2 calls $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls $1.10, MP2 calls $1.10, MP3 calls $1.10.

Flop: ($6.15) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.3</font>, MP2 calls $0.30, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $5</font>, Hero?

Whats my move?

I'll post the results later.

Edit: Haven't seen this guy in a hand yet, I haven't been on the table long. No reads.

ughaulkghalugh
09-23-2006, 06:49 PM
reads?
make it 2.2 preflop
i would fold -- after a bettor, caller, and a huge raise one pair can't be good and their range has to pretty much be a set or at least two purr

Oranzith
09-23-2006, 06:58 PM
prolly facing a set or flush draw. I don't ever see SC calling a 1.5bet preflop. yikes I dunno

dodgybob
09-23-2006, 06:59 PM
I didn't think he'd have a set because i raised it so much pf.

Do you mean make it $2.20 pf? If so, why?

Oranzith: That's the way I looked at it, put him on AKc (or similar), picked him as some donk making a massive overbet to try and take down the pot right there /images/graemlins/smile.gif

ughaulkghalugh
09-23-2006, 07:02 PM
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I didn't think he'd have a set because i raised it so much pf.

Do you mean make it $2.20 pf? If so, why?

Oranzith: That's the way I looked at it, put him on AKc (or similar), picked him as some donk making a massive overbet to try and take down the pot right there /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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to isolate + for value. nobody is folding for 1.1 more.

dodgybob
09-24-2006, 02:44 AM
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7.6</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $7.60.

Turn: ($26.95) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($26.95) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $26.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP3 has 7h 7d (three of a kind, sevens).
Hero has Qc Qh (three of a kind, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $26.95. </font>

I pushed, and got massively lucky. Was coming over the top a terrible move?

JackAll
09-24-2006, 03:08 AM
Wow ... that cold call of a rz'd pot pf then a big lead on the flop looks scary. I would put him on an overpair, which I think you are ahead since AA/KK re-raise more often than TT/JJ, or a draw.

Calling allows drawers to see their next card with good odds considering the number of players in the pot. I think with this board, you need to decide to either push and get money from TT/JJ/big draws and lose to AA/KK/set. Or else just fold. It's pretty close, but in 6-max, I would push. Not sure about fr.

Oh yeah, pot size rrz preflop to isolate and make it heads up so you have less drawers/set-mining going on.