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Wolfram
09-23-2006, 05:43 PM
Opponent is 61/8.8/12 @ 40 hands.

I had tangled once before with him, where he limps and I raise pocket 7's. Flop is 2 overs and he bets out weakly (about 1/3rd pot). I float. Turn bricks and he checks, I bet 2/3 pot and he folds.

In this hand I want to isolate him again, but he throws a loop on me and Limp/reraises. I don't give him much credit for that and it's such a small amount anyway so I call. On the flop I'm WA/WB, so I decide to call down (mainly because of his high aggr. factor).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool (http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php) from FlopTurnRiver.com (http://www.flopturnriver.com) (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($16.45)
Button ($8.10)
SB ($64.80)
BB ($15.90)
UTG ($47.85)
UTG+1 ($5.75)
Hero ($29.20)
MP2 ($11)
MP3 ($23.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $1.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $2.25</font>, Hero calls $1, Button calls $1.

Flop: ($7.10) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4, Button calls $4.

Turn: ($19.10) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10.5</font>, Hero calls $10.50, Button calls $1.85 (All-In).

River: ($41.95) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $13.25</font>, Hero calls $12.45 (All-In).

Final Pot: $67.65

MrMxyztplk
09-23-2006, 06:23 PM
Looks fine.

Brent.
09-23-2006, 06:32 PM
At Full Ring w/KQo in this position I fold PF.

I can't use PT, so I don't know exactly what those stats mean but I get the gist that he is pretty LAG. Regardless, I muck to the LRR. 40 hands is a small sample size. Have you seen him LRR before? KQo is a nasty hand to have in a reraised pot. Reverse Implied Odds in the house.

As played, flat calling the turn seems nasty given you are so committed to calling the river even if it's something ugly like an Ace or a diamond. I don't know, maybe that's cool?

matrix
09-23-2006, 06:35 PM
LRR + leading flop + leading turn for ~1/2pot = ROCKETS!

preflop goot.

flop goot.

turn = FOLD

the turn completes a straight draw and puts a 2 flush draws on board, none of that slowed down UTG - he has you beat here I think almost always, and I'm worried that Button might be ahead here as well.



it's true on the flop you are WA/WB - but also think about the turn - and then the river.

The ONLY hand I can see villain holding here that you beat is JQs

much more likely is AA/KK/AQ and all of those have us cooked.

EMc
09-23-2006, 06:36 PM
Calling the re-raise PF is pretty bad. You overplayed your hand here. LAGs amazingly are allowed to get big hands too. If you are gonna call, make it 10 on the flop and shut down if called or re-raised.

Wolfram
09-23-2006, 06:38 PM
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At Full Ring w/KQo in this position I fold PF

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Yeah, you're probably right. But his stats are basically that of a maniac and I got greedy/fps'ish and wanted to isolate and take his money.

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I muck to the LRR.

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It's a min-raise. And I have position. Mucking to it is horribly weak.

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Have you seen him LRR before?

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No.

Brent.
09-23-2006, 06:45 PM
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I muck to the LRR.

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It's a min-raise. And I have position. Mucking to it is horribly weak.

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Yeah, it's weak but we also avoid getting our stack in when we flop a TP2K type hand and call away all our chips to a guy who LRR preflop. KQo is a hand with really bad "reverse implied odds."

Maybe you have some other hands that you saw him show down that back up this play more, but I don't know. You didn't give any examples of crazy hands he showed down....only one hand that he folded on.

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Have you seen him LRR before?

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No.

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Fear the LRR (at least when holding KQo). /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Brent.
09-23-2006, 07:07 PM
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I muck to the LRR.

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It's a min-raise. And I have position. Mucking to it is horribly weak.

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It should also be noted that you are not closing the action PF and you have a shortstack left to act behind you. This adds to the suckiness of calling the LRR.

Shaddux
09-23-2006, 07:33 PM
Doesn't that force the LAG to play perfectly against us?