(100nl) two KK hands

[Paul B.]

HAND 1: any way to play this differently?

Party Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
4 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
Hero: $152.20
Button: $101.50
SB: $68.33
BB: $145.82

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif T/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif ($27.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $26</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $62</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($151.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Results:
Final pot: $151.5



HAND 2: I had a really LAG image here, play it differently?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter (http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter)

Stack sizes:
UTG: $125.40
UTG+1: $97.50
CO: $100
Hero: $177
SB: $95.36
BB: $122.07

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2</font>, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.

Flop: 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($39.5, 3 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $3.68</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $30</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $56.32</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $135</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 calls all-in $29.18</font>.
Uncalled bets: $79.5 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $185

[quarkncover]

Hand 1: Without reads I am often folding to this turn raise (weaktight?)

Hand 2: It does look like you got pwned hard by a weak lead here. I'm not thrilled about felting KK there on such a dry board in a reraised pot. I might fold to the min3bet, this line is usually a monster or a retard in my experience. This is another spot where reads are very important.

[True]

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Hand 1: Without reads I am often folding to this turn raise (weaktight?)

Hand 2: It does look like you got pwned hard by a weak lead here. I'm not thrilled about felting KK there on such a dry board in a reraised pot. I might fold to the min3bet, this line is usually a monster or a retard in my experience. This is another spot where reads are very important.

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I was gonna say the same thing, small lead and min 3-bet is like a monster almost always. I think villain could have AJ QQ AA however, so there are hands we beat.

Hand 1 - Im felting on the turn.

True

[goofyballer]

FWIW, I think hand 2 would generate better discussion if you cut off the action after UTG+1 min-3bets.

In hand 2, there comes a point where if I get X% of stacks in preflop with an overpair, I don't really care if I go broke postflop due to giving my opponent bad implied odds preflop. It's harder to find folds in re-raised pots and if someone got lucky and hit a set here, reload and move on.

No comments on hand 1 cause I'm kinda lost on that turn as well.