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brendanb438
09-14-2006, 02:43 AM
Free $100 Bet - No strings attached

Congratulations – you are about to make a no-lose bet.

Simply bet $100 on the Pittsburgh Steelers at -1½ against Jacksonville this Monday.

If the Steelers win we’ll pay you out. If the Steelers don’t cover we’ll refund your $100 bet right back into your account. No rollovers, no questions asked and you can withdraw your money immediately.

JOIN NOW
*Terms and conditions apply… further details coming soon.

Live support said the T&Cs. Should be up by tomorrow. Steelers are gonna be responsible for giving a lot of people a bunch more free money.

BetWWTS has a signup bonus of 20% up to $100 on a $500 deposit and a free $20 Super Bowl bet. Also BetWWTS has a RAF of $50 with a minimum deposit of $100 and a 1X rollover of that deposit.

-Brendan

Thremp
09-14-2006, 02:44 AM
Over/Under on posts till playersarse trolls your thread?

brendanb438
09-14-2006, 02:47 AM
I am counting down the minutes Thremp.

-Brendan

youtalkfunny
09-14-2006, 06:40 AM
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JOIN NOW
*Terms and conditions apply… further details coming soon.

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LOL

NajdorfDefense
09-14-2006, 02:12 PM
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LOL

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WWTS is an A+ book. they are fine, but yeah, it looks humorous that way.

Homer
09-14-2006, 02:20 PM
Sweet, a mini-mansion bet. This part is interesting, though...

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Free $100 Bet - No strings attached

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Nice

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*Terms and conditions apply… further details coming soon.

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Oh, strings. Excellent.

BobJoeJim
09-14-2006, 02:43 PM
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Terms and conditions

* Offer only valid for the first 1000 new signups each week (week begins Tuesday morning at 10:00am EST and closes Monday evening at 7:00pm EST). Offer not valid for existing members.
* Once 1000 new signup threshold is reached, offer will be pulled for that week.
* Refund bets do not have any rollover requirements


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Not valid for existing accounts. That's probably a pretty major string for people in this forum, though I'm sure it won't slow down the internet bonuses people. Otherwise the strings are pretty minimal though. If you don't have a WWTS account this may be a good time to get one.

They say the promo will be live by 5:00 PM EST

ScottieK
09-14-2006, 03:23 PM
Just talked to customer support. I registered my new account an hour ago, and I'm eligible for this promo. Will be placing bet at 5:01pm EST. Go Steelers!

ScottieK

XXXNoahXXX
09-14-2006, 03:25 PM
Who is the best pick for the $20 SuperBowl pick?

I was thinking Ravens?


Sorry, this thread just inspired my first deposit into an online sportsbook.

Only deposited $500.

Homer
09-14-2006, 03:27 PM
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Who is the best pick for the $20 SuperBowl pick?

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I'd go with Ravens, Vikings, Rams or Jags.

Gomez
09-14-2006, 04:00 PM
I just signed up, but am a little skeptical.

How do you place the bet? Will it be under the promotions tab, or do you just make the bet at 5:00PM?

BTW I was not eligible for the free futures bet because of my location. Nevada? or U.S.?

Homer
09-14-2006, 04:02 PM
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I just signed up, but am a little skeptical.

How do you place the bet? Will it be under the promotions tab, or do you just make the bet at 5:00PM?

BTW I was not eligible for the free futures bet because of my location. Nevada? or U.S.?

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I'm from US and was eligible. Maybe it's a Nevada thing.

No clue about the promotion. I'd just ask live chat at 5:01.

Wes Mantooth
09-14-2006, 04:07 PM
brendanb, thanks for the post seems like a good deal.

themandude
09-14-2006, 04:28 PM
I am very new to sports betting could you guys tell me exactly what I have to bet and select?

Also is there any known kickback or affiliate sites that I could sign up with before joining WWTS?

Thanks

Kazuma
09-14-2006, 05:19 PM
Go Steelers!!!

bigalt
09-14-2006, 05:26 PM
ahh they've pushed it back to 6 PM now

pong1092
09-14-2006, 05:30 PM
I placed the bet before 5 talking to support about it.
Need a team for the free $20 dollar bet but I dont like any of the previous mentioned any other suggestions?

gila
09-14-2006, 05:33 PM
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I placed the bet before 5 talking to support about it.
Need a team for the free $20 dollar bet but I dont like any of the previous mentioned any other suggestions?

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I would go Chargers or Cards if you want a long shot. Denver maybe as a better prospect.

srjunkacct
09-14-2006, 05:34 PM
Hey all,

Make sure you click under Football -> Props and place the bet there, not under Football -> NFL (this is what I was told by customer service).

ScottieK
09-14-2006, 05:38 PM
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Hey all,

Make sure you click under Football -> Props and place the bet there, not under Football -> NFL (this is what I was told by customer service).

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Thanks...good tip. Was about to screw this up /images/graemlins/frown.gif

ScottieK

XXXNoahXXX
09-14-2006, 05:46 PM
Support told me its fine to bet the $100 on Steelers now.

this convo was at like 3:30pm



Me: now or at 5?

Cherilyn B: One moment please while I get the details.

Cherilyn B: You may place the wager on the Pittsburgh Steelers – 1 ½

Me: how do i know im in the 1st thousand?

Cherilyn B: The promotion just started yesterday

Me: so i should be all set to go ahead and place the $100 bet on the steelers right now?

Cherilyn B: Yes sir. Once we have reached the 1000th sign up the offer will be closed and there will be a pop up notification.




Sounds good right?

Wes Mantooth
09-14-2006, 05:54 PM
I just talked to live support and they told me the promotion will show up at 6:00 pm EST. You can click on the link and follow the bet through the link, so they say

gila
09-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Bummer, apparently this book is connected to betholdem card room for when I tried to sign up it said I already had an account and when they emailed me the information, it is the same username/password as the new betholdem account I signed up for last week. I had not even deposited in there yet. Oh well, long live Mansion!

Homer
09-14-2006, 05:58 PM
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I just talked to live support and they told me the promotion will show up at 6:00 pm EST. You can click on the link and follow the bet through the link, so they say

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It's already up. Go to NFL Props and bet it there.

Wes Mantooth
09-14-2006, 06:04 PM
what is it called under the NFL Props page?

Homer
09-14-2006, 06:06 PM
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what is it called under the NFL Props page?

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Pittsburgh. I'm not trying to be funny.

Kazuma
09-14-2006, 06:09 PM
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Hey all,

Make sure you click under Football -> Props and place the bet there, not under Football -> NFL (this is what I was told by customer service).

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Yeah, I didn't do it this way. I did talk to live chat before I placed my bet and they didn't say to do anything like that. My chat looks pretty much like the other guy who posted his chat. I saved mine too. Hopefully pitt will win and it will be a moot point.
But knowing my luck I will prolly be screwed out of my money.

srjunkacct
09-14-2006, 06:11 PM
The only reason I know is because I checked on my bet, and they told me I screwed it up the first time by clicking under Football -> NFL. They were nice enough to cancel the bet though, and I placed it correctly the second time under Football -> Props, so you might want to do the same.

Wes Mantooth
09-14-2006, 06:16 PM
I just talked to Balynda,

Balynda Barnes: I know am sorry the link was taken down due to technical issues will be back up within the hour

Me: so at 7 pm EST ?

Balynda Barnes: that's correct

Kazuma
09-14-2006, 06:30 PM
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The only reason I know is because I checked on my bet, and they told me I screwed it up the first time by clicking under Football -> NFL. They were nice enough to cancel the bet though, and I placed it correctly the second time under Football -> Props, so you might want to do the same.

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Yeah, I got worried so I talked to live chat and I did infact do it wrong and they were nice enough to cancell my bet. They told me the link would be up at 6:30, but I was looking at it when I was talking to him, so I don't know if he was mistaken or what.

But eveyone defently needs to do it correctly for the freeroll bet to work.

Edit: Now I see there is a link on the front page. I wonder if we have to use this link or if the way we did it will work just the same?

bluef0x
09-14-2006, 06:31 PM
I did the promo just now... don't know why the link is down if I was able to do it.

ScottieK
09-14-2006, 06:41 PM
I just did it from the link provided on the home page, and it's listed as a proposition wager in my pending wagers list. CS confirmed that it's covered under the promotion.

Damn, all this effort....maybe it's not worth the $100 /images/graemlins/wink.gif

ScottieK

sp3ctr3
09-14-2006, 06:45 PM
PROPOSITION
TEAM TO COVER MONDAY [50001] STEELERS -1 1/2 -110
100.00 90.90

Is this the correct bet everyone made?

ScottieK
09-14-2006, 06:46 PM
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PROPOSITION
TEAM TO COVER MONDAY [50001] STEELERS -1 1/2 -110
100.00 90.90

Is this the correct bet everyone made?

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Same one I got. Go Steelers go!

ScottieK

MyTurn2Raise
09-14-2006, 06:48 PM
gotta love free money

03 Z4
09-14-2006, 07:27 PM
Just made bet. No problem.

smak
09-14-2006, 07:36 PM
Support told my friend that if your Refer a Friend bets his $100 on the risk free bet, it doesn't count as $100 being wagered!!!

Some more people ask support please.

Gomez
09-14-2006, 09:03 PM
Cost me 1 hour out of my life. Not exactly free.

bills217
09-14-2006, 09:07 PM
Um...WTF?

Directions said nothing about betting it under props.

[censored]. CS time.

Edited to add: Well at least CS fixed it.

dynacraze
09-14-2006, 09:39 PM
does this still work ?

BigBluffer
09-14-2006, 10:47 PM
I think I'll wait till next week to sign up. Looks like they have a lot of kinks to work out.

brendanb438
09-14-2006, 11:15 PM
This still works make sure to bet this under NFL/ Football props it is at the very bottom of the list. If you bet the wrong one CS is by far the best and easiest to deal with and they will cancel the wrong bet and let you bet the correct one.

-Brendan

zook
09-14-2006, 11:40 PM
I just spent awhile on live chat with BetWWTS and it doesn't sound like the Steelers free bet will qualify for the referral bonus. I'll paste the chat transcript below. I'm going to talk to a manager tomorrow and I'll post again if anything changes.

Please wait while we find an agent to assist you...
You have been connected to David S.
David S: Welcome to Live Chat Support, I am your Customer Service Representative, how may I assist
you?
ME: Hello. I referred 3 friends to you site today and I'm wondering when the bonuses will appear in
my account.
David S: Your friend needs to a deposit an place a wager
ME: They all have done so.
David S: Ok in that case once all that is done and they did place your name in the referee section
of the sign up page it may take up to 48 hours
ME: Ok. So if I don't see the bonuses in my account by Saturday evening I should contact you?
David S: Yes Sir you should be able to verify by then if all the requirements were met
ME: Ok. They are all wagering on the Steelers promotional bet, will that meet the requirements?
ME: hello, do we still have a connection?
David S: Sorry about that Sir
ME: it's ok. did you get my previous question? I told my friends about the Steelers promotion and
they deposited and wagered on it. Will this meet the requirements for my referral bonus?
David S: They would need to make a regular wager and not one from the promotion
ME: really?
ME: they wouldn't have joined the site or even known about the promotion if I hadn't told them about
it. I'm not happy about this.
ME: The Refer-A-Friend Terms & Conditions state: # Friend/ Referred Customer must deposit a minimum
of $100 before you can claim your bonus.
# Friend/ Referred Customer must rollover deposit amount 1x rollover with no losses necessary to
considered a qualified Friend.
ME: Since they are wagering the $100 and no losses are required, I don't understand why the
promotion doesn't qualify...
David S: The refer a friend is a promotion so is also the $100 Monday night pick. Promotions are not
combined
David S: If you need further clarification please feel free to contact a manager in the morning
ME: I am only claiming one promotion. I am not playing the $100 Monday night pick.
ME: how may I contact a manager in the morning?
David S: You can either contact us using live chat or telephone
ME: ok. thanks for your help.

centja1
09-15-2006, 12:21 AM
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thanks for the heads up on this

BadgerPro
09-15-2006, 12:55 AM
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and a free $20 Super Bowl bet

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Ok I've made the free $100 bet on the Steelers but I'm missing seeing where the free $20 SB bet is listed or how to make it. Any help is appreciated.

paperchamp
09-15-2006, 12:56 AM
Sweet, got in on this one. I wasn't able to get the Mansion bet down in time.

paperchamp
09-15-2006, 12:56 AM
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and a free $20 Super Bowl bet

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Ok I've made the free $100 bet on the Steelers but I'm missing seeing where the free $20 SB bet is listed or how to make it. Any help is appreciated.

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Same here.

Homer
09-15-2006, 12:58 AM
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and a free $20 Super Bowl bet

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Ok I've made the free $100 bet on the Steelers but I'm missing seeing where the free $20 SB bet is listed or how to make it. Any help is appreciated.

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Same here.

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There is a link that says "Free Future Bet" underneath the yellow link in the top-right corner for Horses.

paperchamp
09-15-2006, 01:00 AM
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and a free $20 Super Bowl bet

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Ok I've made the free $100 bet on the Steelers but I'm missing seeing where the free $20 SB bet is listed or how to make it. Any help is appreciated.

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Same here.

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There is a link that says "Free Future Bet" underneath the yellow link in the top-right corner for Horses.

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Interesting, I don't have that.

BadgerPro
09-15-2006, 01:02 AM
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and a free $20 Super Bowl bet

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Ok I've made the free $100 bet on the Steelers but I'm missing seeing where the free $20 SB bet is listed or how to make it. Any help is appreciated.

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Same here.

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There is a link that says "Free Future Bet" underneath the yellow link in the top-right corner for Horses.

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Interesting, I don't have that.

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Yeah, I don't have that link either.

Edit: I went to the NFL futures section of the sports book also but didn't see a way to make a free future bet.

brendanb438
09-15-2006, 01:32 AM
Talked to live support the free $20 SuperBowl bet was taken offline, CS doesnt know exactly why. Looks like they may only offer the free $100 bet not both anymore.

They told me to contact them tomorrow for the exact details.
-Brendan

paperchamp
09-15-2006, 01:34 AM
Thanks for the info.

chev9
09-15-2006, 09:54 AM
Also, the 20% signup bonus is only if you use Neteller. I used Firepay and got 15%. No big deal, but worth mentioning. The combination of that and the disappearance of the free SB bet makes me think I'll just ride the free Steelers play and then get out of this site. They don't seem to have their act together to me.

Zag Nutz
09-15-2006, 09:56 AM
How do I get the free $20 futures bet on the Super Bowl (as part of the sign-up promotion)? Do I just make a $20 bet?

ScottieK
09-15-2006, 10:25 AM
When I log in, there's a "Free Future Bet" option on the main vertical menu, right next to "contact us" on the right side. I made my bet and it's registered.

ScottieK

Homer
09-15-2006, 11:22 AM
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Also, the 20% signup bonus is only if you use Neteller. I used Firepay and got 15%. No big deal, but worth mentioning. The combination of that and the disappearance of the free SB bet makes me think I'll just ride the free Steelers play and then get out of this site. They don't seem to have their act together to me.

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I would only be concerned with the free SB bet. Their bonus T&C says the 20% bonus is for NT only.

zook
09-15-2006, 12:56 PM
Just got off chat with BetWWTS again and the RAF bonus will NOT be deposited if your friend bets on the Steelers promotion. Your friend will have to make a seperate 1X deposit wager for the $50 to be deposited in your account. I gave them hell, told them there T&C were misleading, I wouldn't be referring anyone else to their site, etc. etc. and they just apologized and said they would update their T&C.

Another important point that people in this thread are missed is that to qualify for the 20% signup bonus, you need wager 5X the deposit+bonus. That means $600 of wagers to clear your $20 bonus. Not a very good deal.

Homer
09-15-2006, 01:39 PM
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Just got off chat with BetWWTS again and the RAF bonus will NOT be deposited if your friend bets on the Steelers promotion. Your friend will have to make a seperate 1X deposit wager for the $50 to be deposited in your account.

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Seems standard. You aren't referring a player to them if all that player does is make a single risk-free bet. He has to put at least some of his own money at risk. Rolling the deposit 1x seems quite fair.

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I gave them hell, told them there T&C were misleading, I wouldn't be referring anyone else to their site, etc. etc. and they just apologized and said they would update their T&C.

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Ugh.

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Another important point that people in this thread are missed is that to qualify for the 20% signup bonus, you need wager 5X the deposit+bonus. That means $600 of wagers to clear your $20 bonus. Not a very good deal.

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This is fairly standard for a sportsbook bonus.

MyTurn2Raise
09-15-2006, 01:53 PM
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Just got off chat with BetWWTS again and the RAF bonus will NOT be deposited if your friend bets on the Steelers promotion. Your friend will have to make a seperate 1X deposit wager for the $50 to be deposited in your account. I gave them hell, told them there T&C were misleading, I wouldn't be referring anyone else to their site, etc. etc. and they just apologized and said they would update their T&C.

Another important point that people in this thread are missed is that to qualify for the 20% signup bonus, you need wager 5X the deposit+bonus. That means $600 of wagers to clear your $20 bonus. Not a very good deal.

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wow man....you think they would really pay a bonus if you were not risking anything?

zook
09-15-2006, 01:55 PM
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Seems standard. You aren't referring a player to them if all that player does is make a single risk-free bet. He has to put at least some of his own money at risk. Rolling the deposit 1x seems quite fair.

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Meh. Their RAF T&C says that the person has to wager 1X their deposit amount and no losses are required for the RAF bonus to be deposited. It also says nothing about not being used in conjunction with other bonuses. I think that's misleading. Not unfair.

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I gave them hell, told them there T&C were misleading, I wouldn't be referring anyone else to their site, etc. etc. and they just apologized and said they would update their T&C.

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Ugh.

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Don't worry, I was very polite.

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This is fairly standard for a sportsbook bonus.

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I know that, but a LOT of people signing up for these free bets aren't sports bettors, so I thought it was worth pointing out.

boscoboy
09-15-2006, 01:55 PM
ha - i never saw a link for the futures bet so i bet my 20% signup bonus ($20) on the eagles to win the superbowl - i guess this means if i cash out my bet disappears b/c it was done with bonus money that hasnt been rolled over yet?

zook
09-15-2006, 02:06 PM
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wow man....you think they would really pay a bonus if you were not risking anything?

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Sure I did. I referred 3 people to their site who otherwise would not have joined. I used to be a regular bettor on their site and have given them plenty of business. A $50 bonus is nothing to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed off that I'm not getting it, they have the right to conduct their business however they want. I just think they should have something in their RAF T&C that explains their policy. If that was there, I wouldn't have gone to the trouble of signing up friends, showing them how to place the bet, etc.

Homer
09-15-2006, 02:09 PM
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wow man....you think they would really pay a bonus if you were not risking anything?

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Sure I did. I referred 3 people to their site who otherwise would not have joined. I used to be a regular bettor on their site and have given them plenty of business. A $50 bonus is nothing to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pissed off that I'm not getting it, they have the right to conduct their business however they want. I just think they should have something in their RAF T&C that explains their policy. If that was there, I wouldn't have gone to the trouble of signing up friends, showing them how to place the bet, etc.

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The thing is, they haven't been referred a new player yet. They have been referred a potential new player, and if and when that player risks even the smallest amount of money, they will pay you. I suppose they could make it more clear in their T&C, but the policy seems very straightforward.

zook
09-15-2006, 02:11 PM
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The thing is, they haven't been referred a new player yet. They have been referred a potential new player, and if and when that player risks even the smallest amount of money, they will pay you. I suppose they could make it more clear in their T&C, but the policy seems very straightforward.

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I hear you, and I don't think their policy is unfair. But my friends will have to risk their entire deposit ($100) to qualify for the RAF bonus. So it's not "even the smallest amount of money".

TheRover
09-15-2006, 02:12 PM
So who hedged?

Homer
09-15-2006, 02:13 PM
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The thing is, they haven't been referred a new player yet. They have been referred a potential new player, and if and when that player risks even the smallest amount of money, they will pay you. I suppose they could make it more clear in their T&C, but the policy seems very straightforward.

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I hear you, and I don't think their policy is unfair. But my friends will have to risk their entire deposit ($100) to qualify for the RAF bonus. So it's not "even the smallest amount of money".

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I wasn't being literal when I said smallest amount of money.

Obviously, if they are depositing $100, they should be expected to churn that amount at least once. Otherwise, why deposit that much? Why not just deposit $50?

Thremp
09-15-2006, 02:21 PM
I will be on Monday.

FCBLComish
09-15-2006, 02:46 PM
Ha, I made my free future bet on the Eagles (+1500).

Good luck to us!

MyTurn2Raise
09-15-2006, 04:57 PM
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So who hedged?

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OK...I hedged the Mansion because $490>>>my monthly rent+utilities

If you hedge this, you should not be playing online poker, opening up sportsbook accounts, etc.

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 05:07 PM
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Just got off chat with BetWWTS again and the RAF bonus will NOT be deposited if your friend bets on the Steelers promotion. Your friend will have to make a seperate 1X deposit wager for the $50 to be deposited in your account. I gave them hell, told them there T&C were misleading, I wouldn't be referring anyone else to their site, etc. etc. and they just apologized and said they would update their T&C.

Another important point that people in this thread are missed is that to qualify for the 20% signup bonus, you need wager 5X the deposit+bonus. That means $600 of wagers to clear your $20 bonus. Not a very good deal.

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That is a great deal unless you don't know what you are doing.

-SFWUSC

Utah
09-15-2006, 05:47 PM
I signed up as it is a great deal. Free $100 bet, 20% bonus, $20 free bet.

I chatted with live help for about 5 minutes this morning and they took by $20 bet over chat (Vikings +3000). No problems even though the link wasnt there.

BadgerPro
09-15-2006, 06:05 PM
I contacted support yesterday about the missing $20 future. They said they weren't sure why it was down but were working on getting it back up as the promotion is still underway.

Like was mentioned by another poster if you contact support they will help you make the wager even though it's not listed.


Edit: The free "future bet" link is back up. Top right corner under the yellow banner.

Wes Mantooth
09-15-2006, 06:30 PM
Thanks, future bet works for me now as well.

homeslice
09-15-2006, 06:34 PM
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If you hedge this, you should not be playing online poker, opening up sportsbook accounts, etc.

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I disagree. I didn't hedge the Mansion bet, because I thought the Steelers were going to win (I was late to the party and got them at PK).

I just don't think the Steelers are going to win Monday, w/ or w/o Ben . So why piss away free cash. I still kept money at Mansion and w/ the 10% vig I locked up $43.27.

I play 25NL and 50 NL so I just received a free buyin. I'm happy with that.

MyTurn2Raise
09-15-2006, 07:31 PM
that's different IMO homeslice

You are betting on JAX because you think it is +ev, not to reduce risk to 0.

primetime32
09-15-2006, 07:58 PM
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I just don't think the Steelers are going to win Monday, w/ or w/o Ben . So why piss away free cash. I still kept money at Mansion and w/ the 10% vig I locked up $43.27.


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The problem here is that you are presuming you know more than vegas does. If you are that sure that the jags are going to win you should be wagering a hell of alot more than 100 on this game. In reality, unless you are a professional handicapper who has inside information that the jags will cover there is very little reason to hedge this bet.

And there is certainly no reason to do so at a book that only offers 10% vig when there are a few sites out there that offer 4 or 5% vig.

I didn't hedge the pitt (was one of the suckers who got it at -5 and got lucky) bet because it was a free bet. Why tack on vig to a free bet? it reduces your ev. And on a bet that is even smaller there is less motivation for me to hedge.

smak
09-15-2006, 08:05 PM
I may hedge, because I think Jacksonville +2 is ridiculous.

I'd have it the other way around.

One thing that may make me not hedge is the fact the Steelers had 3 extra days off.

If it was later in the season that would be a huge advantage. This early, maybe not so much.

smak
09-15-2006, 08:17 PM
Support tells me the free Superbowl bet ends this weekend.

I wanted to wait awhile, but i'm placing it now.

It might only end for me since I signed up yesterday. Maybe people who sign up next week will get to do it, but i'm not sure.

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 08:35 PM
I am in too.

I took New Orleans. Go Bush Go.

$1600 if they win the superbowl makes me a huge fan!

-SFWUSC

dynacraze
09-15-2006, 08:40 PM
does anyone have the instrutions to do this bet? Like the person that helped with the pitt miami game ? I make a lot of mistakes placing sportsbets. ty.

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 08:43 PM
I dont think you can screw it up. They have links for you to click. Ask support they are very helpful.

-sfwusc

dynacraze
09-15-2006, 09:28 PM
any chance this has the maximum number of bettors alreayd like mansion did with the 5000 max?

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 09:32 PM
I don't know, but 1000 new accounts. Mansion any account could make the bet.

dynacraze
09-15-2006, 09:58 PM
Is it the 2nd to last box? Number 50001 i click on -110 pittsburgh -1.5?

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 10:09 PM
yea that sounds right.

I dont really know what the 50001 number is for.

SFWUSC

dynacraze
09-15-2006, 10:17 PM
what do i do with the extra 20 bucks? Do i have to use it to bet on the super bowl? what are the requirmentes for that rollover?

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 10:27 PM
I think you have to put that on the super bowl.
The 20% has to be rolled 5 x but it isnt as bad as it sounds. Just make your bets as normal and take all arbs at -2% or less. If you lose at BetWWTS then your money is now at nonbonus book. Very unlikely that you actually have to bet 5x the D+B, but it would be possible.

-SFWUSC

dynacraze
09-15-2006, 10:34 PM
i STILL have 20 dollars on my account showing. I am just in it for the risk free since i only deposited 100 dollars. I only did the pitt bet and the superbowl bet. Is my account suppose to show 20 dollars now?

sfwusc
09-15-2006, 10:38 PM
That is the 20% bonus.

You will have to WR $600 to clear that.

Do you not sports bet a lot? If you don't then wait until you get done with the Pit game.

Then you can ask around what to do with the $20. You can get some value out of the $20 even with $600 WR.

-SFWUSC

scorer
09-15-2006, 10:59 PM
the 20 dollars bonus is kind of risk free folks. Because its a bonus you should just wager and at worst you lose it and it was free money. If you want to withdraw it you have to wager 5x rollover. As for the free super bowl wager its on the line that says free wager or something similiar.

dynacraze
09-15-2006, 11:00 PM
i bet the free future as well. I should not worry about hat since its a long time away right?

Chocobo
09-15-2006, 11:19 PM
I want to hedge my bet by depositing and putting an additional $40 on the Jaguars. Is there any reason that I can't do it on BetWWTS at the same time? I could do it on Bodog, but the odds are less favorable there.

Chocobo
09-15-2006, 11:22 PM
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the 20 dollars bonus is kind of risk free folks. Because its a bonus you should just wager and at worst you lose it and it was free money.

[/ QUOTE ]

DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH THE $20 BONUS.

Suppose you put $20 on a throwaway game and lose it, then the Steelers win and you have $190 in your account.

YOU CAN ONLY WITHDRAW $170, you'll have to leave $20 in the account because you haven't earned the bonus yet. Gambling with the bonus money before it's earned = gambling YOUR money.

Chocobo
09-15-2006, 11:28 PM
[ QUOTE ]
The 20% has to be rolled 5 x but it isnt as bad as it sounds. Just make your bets as normal and take all arbs at -2% or less. If you lose at BetWWTS then your money is now at nonbonus book. Very unlikely that you actually have to bet 5x the D+B, but it would be possible.
-SFWUSC

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"Bonus funds, plus deposit amount must be rolled over at least five (5) times before bonus monies can be withdrawn"

That means $600 in total wagers. That $20 is extremely hard to turn into cashout-able money... and if you lose the $20 it counts against you.

"Withdrawal of any amount made within 30 days of initial deposit will result in bonus monies being forfeited"

If you cash out before earning the bonus, the $20 disappears, you can't even throw it around on a freeroll.

This so-called bonus is going to end up costing a LOT of people money, because they think it is free...

Homer
09-15-2006, 11:36 PM
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This so-called bonus is going to end up costing a LOT of people money, because they think it is free...

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Please do a minimum amount of research before bitching. You can turn down the bonus. Then you only have to rollover your deposit 1x.

Chocobo
09-15-2006, 11:55 PM
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Please do a minimum amount of research before bitching. You can turn down the bonus. Then you only have to rollover your deposit 1x.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Most people won't turn down the bonus, as they see no reason to do so. Many of them will bet the $20 on some random game, thinking it's a freeroll. Half of those people will lose $20 of their own money. Am I incorrect about this?

Homer
09-15-2006, 11:57 PM
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Please do a minimum amount of research before bitching. You can turn down the bonus. Then you only have to rollover your deposit 1x.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Most people won't turn down the bonus, as they see no reason to do so. Many of them will bet the $20 on some random game, thinking it's a freeroll. Half of those people will lose $20 of their own money. Am I incorrect about this?

[/ QUOTE ]

Are people honestly going to think that the 20% signup bonus has no wagering requirement? I can't imagine anyone who isn't a complete newbie to all forms of online gaming (poker, sports, casinos) would assume that money is literally free. Only the Pittsburgh bet is advertised as being special and having no rollover requirement.

Chocobo
09-16-2006, 12:02 AM
Everyone knows that the 20% bonus has a wagering requirement before you can cash it out. But many people (including a number of people posting in this thread, and the similar thread in the Internet Bonuses forum) do not understand that the $20 counts against you if you lose it.

Many people see the $20 as a freebie they're getting for signing up, and if they lose it, then no big deal. They are not aware that losing the $20 "bonus" means they will be forced to cash out $20 less than they could have cashed out otherwise. They think they're taking a free gamble, they don't understand that they are risking their own money.

themandude
09-16-2006, 04:05 AM
Well I declined the 20$ bonus bet for good reasons. For one you have to keep all you money in their sports book for a entire month before being allowed to withdrawl.. have fun.

dynacraze
09-16-2006, 10:41 AM
u mean the superbowl bet? I heard you can make that bet but if you withdraw within 30 days, all you lose is the 20 percent bonus?

rawl316
09-16-2006, 11:39 AM
I too turned down the 20% bonus. i just intend on getting the free steelers bet and then withdrawing. I don't want to rollover or keep my money in there for 30 days.

dynacraze
09-16-2006, 12:51 PM
i did not turn down the 20 percent bonus but i am not using it at all. Does that mean i cannot withdraw for 30 days?

Utah
09-16-2006, 01:00 PM
Wow. I find this thread really funny. How can someone complain or nitpick such things. I love free money.

I wonder is some of these people would complain if they were surprised and given a free car, "Oh. I dont like the color...and I am going to have to maintian it.....and gas is expensive....."

dynacraze
09-16-2006, 01:49 PM
anyone can answer my previous question. thank you very much

rutang
09-16-2006, 02:16 PM
having read the T+C I'm not sure that you don't have to rollover monday night winnings in order to withdraw them, just like the winnings were a bonus. Just a heads up. someone who cared could ask CS

LargeCents
09-16-2006, 08:00 PM
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i did not turn down the 20 percent bonus but i am not using it at all. Does that mean i cannot withdraw for 30 days?

[/ QUOTE ]

If you withdraw before 30 days, you simply forfeit the bonus.

Veg
09-16-2006, 08:55 PM
just placed the bet
as soon as I created my account, a CS popped up and did almost everything for me, deposited my 100$ from my neteller and helped me through the bet process

was quite cool

Veg
09-16-2006, 09:04 PM
i orinally put 10$ on Jags Pk at Mansion
now its at +2.5 Jags on mansion... dunno what I should do

What would my best hedge strategy be... ?
Maybe just root for steelers and take 80$ profit instead of 90$ profit ? hehe

dynacraze
09-16-2006, 10:18 PM
if i wait after 30 days, does that mean i can withdraw my winnings and just do ANYTHIGN with the 20 dollar bonus i got for my 100 dollar deposit?

homeslice
09-16-2006, 11:06 PM
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I just don't think the Steelers are going to win Monday, w/ or w/o Ben . So why piss away free cash. I still kept money at Mansion and w/ the 10% vig I locked up $43.27.


[/ QUOTE ]

The problem here is that you are presuming you know more than vegas does. If you are that sure that the jags are going to win you should be wagering a hell of alot more than 100 on this game. In reality, unless you are a professional handicapper who has inside information that the jags will cover there is very little reason to hedge this bet.

And there is certainly no reason to do so at a book that only offers 10% vig when there are a few sites out there that offer 4 or 5% vig.

I didn't hedge the pitt (was one of the suckers who got it at -5 and got lucky) bet because it was a free bet. Why tack on vig to a free bet? it reduces your ev. And on a bet that is even smaller there is less motivation for me to hedge.

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I know that I don't more than Vegas does, and I'm content w/ dat. When it comes to making large +EV speculations I rather do it in other arena, such as the futures market. Right now, especially w/ our depreciating dollar, there's more money (slight leverage) to be made there than other place that I know of.

Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong w/ taking advantage of +EV situations in poker or sports gambling in general. However there's so many bright people on this forum, much brighter than me, and hopefully some of you will realize there's more +EV oppurtunities outside of poker and sports betting.

I've never bet on a game prior to the mansion bet, the only thing I've bet on previously besides poker was the over on Crank(movie). Anyhow the reason why I gave Mansion action wuz I think they may have a promotion for the NBA opener, and they may just allow their existing customers, who've made a few bets after the season opener to participate. That's why I sacrificed $2 EV+ I could have gotten at pinny, because I may be able to get $50+ EV down the road.

P.S. I went to see UConn(my alma mater) take on Wake Forest today. I so wish I wuz back in school. So many good looking ladies. Peace!

pagesteve
09-19-2006, 08:58 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Free $100 Bet - No strings attached

Congratulations – you are about to make a no-lose bet.

Simply bet $100 on the Pittsburgh Steelers at -1½ against Jacksonville this Monday.

If the Steelers win we’ll pay you out. If the Steelers don’t cover we’ll refund your $100 bet right back into your account. No rollovers, no questions asked and you can withdraw your money immediately.

JOIN NOW
*Terms and conditions apply… further details coming soon.

Live support said the T&Cs. Should be up by tomorrow. Steelers are gonna be responsible for giving a lot of people a bunch more free money.

BetWWTS has a signup bonus of 20% up to $100 on a $500 deposit and a free $20 Super Bowl bet. Also BetWWTS has a RAF of $50 with a minimum deposit of $100 and a 1X rollover of that deposit.

-Brendan

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Has anyone received their refund yet.My $100 is still in the bets pending section of my account. /images/graemlins/confused.gif

homeslice
09-19-2006, 09:00 PM
It was in my account at around 3:00PM EST.

rawl316
09-19-2006, 09:09 PM
I got mine too.

If you try withdrawing, does your $100 still show? Do you get an email confirming that you withdrew?

NajdorfDefense
09-19-2006, 10:12 PM
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I got mine too.

If you try withdrawing, does your $100 still show? Do you get an email confirming that you withdrew?

[/ QUOTE ]

It has not shown up in mine yet. Are they doing this with a pdp-11?

Wes Mantooth
09-19-2006, 10:42 PM
I got mine back, but have not tried to withdraw yet.

Bishop22
09-20-2006, 01:20 AM
Fading again this week, I like NO +3.5 and the bet is on ATL, might as well save my free wager until I like the bet.

pagesteve
09-20-2006, 06:58 AM
Now my pending, unsettled, bet has been settled as a loser so I wasn't given a refund. I communicated online with live support. They said they had been instructed to tell clients to call during office hours about this matter. Very strange. I am glad it is only a $100 and not the $1000 Mansion.

scorer
09-20-2006, 07:10 AM
wwts is really bad here. I have to call in the morning as well

Utah
09-20-2006, 09:20 AM
I just checked my account. Zero problems. It was cancelled and no money was taken out of my account. I did not need to contact support.

ScottieK
09-20-2006, 10:26 AM
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I just checked my account. Zero problems. It was cancelled and no money was taken out of my account. I did not need to contact support.

[/ QUOTE ]

And I got a $50 bonus from a referred friend. Thanks!

ScottieK

brendanb438
09-20-2006, 10:51 AM
Scorer you say BetWWTS used to be way better under old management like you know this first hand. If you had an old account with BetWWTS and signed up for a new account to get this then maybe that is the issue. They seem pretty strict when it comes to bonuses to new accounts and 1 account per person.

-Brendan

scorer
09-20-2006, 02:28 PM
Brendan, thats not the case. I spoke with the old owner as of maybe 5-6 years ago now its a corporate shop with no real bookies running the action persay.

smak
09-20-2006, 03:01 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I just checked my account. Zero problems. It was cancelled and no money was taken out of my account. I did not need to contact support.

[/ QUOTE ]

And I got a $50 bonus from a referred friend. Thanks!

ScottieK

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You've gotta wager $50 to get that bonus right? So even if you lose the $50 you wager, you'll then have the $50 bonus. Kind of like another free bet.

NajdorfDefense
09-20-2006, 04:43 PM
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Now my pending, unsettled, bet has been settled as a loser so I wasn't given a refund.

[/ QUOTE ]

rawl316
09-20-2006, 05:58 PM
my money is back in my neteller, no problems or questions asked.

hoyasnaxa
09-21-2006, 02:26 AM
I mite as well say that they are offering this same promotion for the next MNF game, falcons saints.

MikeyPatriot
09-21-2006, 03:23 AM
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I mite as well say that they are offering this same promotion for the next MNF game, falcons saints.

[/ QUOTE ]

2 questions

1) Do they plan on doing this each week?

2) If yes, should I take the Falcons here anyway?

PropPlayer
09-21-2006, 06:38 AM
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my money is back in my neteller, no problems or questions asked.

[/ QUOTE ]

Same

NajdorfDefense
09-24-2006, 04:36 PM
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Now my pending, unsettled, bet has been settled as a loser so I wasn't given a refund.

[/ QUOTE ]

[/ QUOTE ]

I got an email saying they would fix it, it is not fixed yet. I am getting really pissed off at them. Anyone else still having this issue?

Davey
09-24-2006, 05:04 PM
I almost screwed my brother out of $100 on this. We have different addresses, Neteller accounts, everything you need....but I let him sign up for this on my computer too. So he wasnt eligible for the promotion. But after talking to live chat for a while and then emailing someone else they refunded my bet.

I also made a mistake when cashing out. I wanted to cashout my $100 and decline the $20 bonus but only $80 hit my Neteller. That was annoying.

Pete G
09-24-2006, 05:58 PM
Yes , I am still waiting for my refund. They told me it should be fixed on Tuesday. This is getting ridiculous.

NajdorfDefense
09-24-2006, 06:27 PM
If I want to cash out, do they only keep the 20 if you haven't cleared the bonus [if you accepted it] is that the other issue?

NajdorfDefense
09-24-2006, 11:09 PM
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If I want to cash out, do they only keep the 20 if you haven't cleared the bonus [if you accepted it] is that the other issue?

[/ QUOTE ]

I have an email from them at 7:20pm tonite [2nd one this week] that says the $100 has been credited to my account. It has not been credited. Their site STILL shows me with the $100 'prop' loss for the Pitt game.
I am really angry with them, it is inexcusable to twice say it has been credited when they are flat out lying. Don't tell your customers the money is in the account when it ain't. fellas.

pagesteve
09-25-2006, 03:25 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If I want to cash out, do they only keep the 20 if you haven't cleared the bonus [if you accepted it] is that the other issue?

[/ QUOTE ]

I have an email from them at 7:20pm tonite [2nd one this week] that says the $100 has been credited to my account. It has not been credited. Their site STILL shows me with the $100 'prop' loss for the Pitt game.
I am really angry with them, it is inexcusable to twice say it has been credited when they are flat out lying. Don't tell your customers the money is in the account when it ain't. fellas.

[/ QUOTE ]
I was told online by support to phone them.
What is the problem ?" I asked
" I have been instructed not to discuss the matter."
" Where are you located? "
" I cannot reveal our location to you."
" I want to know what timezone you are in."
" Where are you?"
" Las Vegas."
" We are 3 hours ahead er behind no ahead of you."
I called customer service gave them my details and was put on hold for 16 minutes when I terminated my call.

Ortho
09-25-2006, 07:11 AM
For those of you who have recently cashed out of WWTS, how long did it take for them to pay, assuming you didn't have any problems related to the free bets or bonus rollover?