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jdog1999
08-30-2006, 11:00 PM
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) jdog1999 is UTG with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif
jdog1999 calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/spade.gif J/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/club.gif ($1.1, 4 players)
BB checks, jdog1999 checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.

Turn: 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif ($1.1, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $1</font>, jdog1999 calls, 2 folds.

River: 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif ($3.1, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $2</font>, jdog1999 calls.

Results:
Final pot: $7.1

When the 4 came on the turn I was happy. When the villian bet I thought "How could the 4 have helped this guy" I put him on A 10 but felt my hand was too good to fold. I thought I was getting by cheaply enough to finish the hand. How would you have played it?
Claunchy
08-30-2006, 11:04 PM
You need to raise the turn here bad. There's like a 99.87 (exact calculation, trust me) chance that you're ahead, and there are a lot of cards that could come on the river that would suck (T, A, heart).

River's safe, raiiiiiiissssee for the love of God. There's no way BB has KK, QQ, or JJ, and I really doubt he has a straight either.
orange
08-30-2006, 11:05 PM
raise somewhere, lost value imo.
jdog1999
08-30-2006, 11:09 PM
I had planed on betting the river but when he lead out again on the turn I just felt this guy was trying to trap me.
jakeduke
08-30-2006, 11:11 PM
There's a ton of hands worse than AT/T9 that BB is betting there. I raise the turn big.
gimmetheloot
08-30-2006, 11:11 PM
dude definitely raise the turn. Raise the river. Raise somewhere. If he has AT and played it like a donkey, so be it. But you def lost a ton of value.
jdog1999
08-30-2006, 11:17 PM
Do you think the NL25 level of play here has any bearing on how I should play. More than once I have been caught by pocket Ace's and King's because they limped.
jdog1999
08-30-2006, 11:19 PM
I'm about to go to bed. So I just wanted to let you know the guy had trip Js. Who doesn't Raise with pocket J
jdefoe
08-30-2006, 11:27 PM
you must raise the turn here, it will give you lots of valuable information about his hand
NSchandler
08-31-2006, 12:12 AM
There is absolutely no way that from that action you can put him on AT. That is the most weak-tight of all weak-tight thoughts there.

Playing passively kept you from losing your stack this time, but calling down with a set just because a straight is possible is going to lose you money in the long run.
jdog1999
08-31-2006, 08:37 AM
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There is absolutely no way that from that action you can put him on AT. That is the most weak-tight of all weak-tight thoughts there.

Playing passively kept you from losing your stack this time, but calling down with a set just because a straight is possible is going to lose you money in the long run.

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I think that weak tight is my biggest leak right now. I am probably missing many chances to make value bets.