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scorer
08-14-2006, 12:24 PM
Deposited 100 there for a 300 bonus with an 8000 wr. Playing surrender blackjack, i have played 4 online casino's previous to this one. What in god's name is the deal with them. I started at 400 and am down to 170 betting 5 per hand. This is not a bad run, the dealer can't lose he's getting 19/20/21 all the time. I tried to cash out my original 100 and no can do. Has anybody else cleared this bonus without problems or going broke.

sonneti
08-14-2006, 12:26 PM
Cashed £550 from the same bonus..

Lessu
08-14-2006, 12:35 PM
started with $400. got it up to $780 bettin $2 5-handed. +$680/4hrs

rigged?

Ken_AA
08-14-2006, 12:40 PM
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Deposited 100 there for a 300 bonus with an 8000 wr. Playing surrender blackjack, i have played 4 online casino's previous to this one. What in god's name is the deal with them. I started at 400 and am down to 170 betting 5 per hand. This is not a bad run, the dealer can't lose he's getting 19/20/21 all the time. I tried to cash out my original 100 and no can do. Has anybody else cleared this bonus without problems or going broke.

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Both my brother and myself made big scores at casino blasters.

Can we maybe get a sticky that says online casino's aren't rigged?

Ken

tqo123
08-14-2006, 12:40 PM
How many hands are you playing per round? How many rounds have you played?

Jibba
08-14-2006, 12:42 PM
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started with $400. got it up to $780 bettin $2 5-handed. +$680/4hrs

rigged?

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I've gotta start trying this. I get so bored doing $2 games one at a time. Usually end up upping it to $5 a hand to get the bonus moving. Hasn't hurt yet though.

scorer
08-14-2006, 12:47 PM
I bet 5.00 per hand using the wizard of odds chart, have wagered 1500 so far am down to 170 from 400 and will go busto. Maybe i have to pay them for all you guys who won..lol

scorer
08-14-2006, 12:53 PM
im on the phone with cust service, there going to see if they can cancel the promotion and i can get my 100 bucks back. First hand after posting im dealt 2/4/J hit my 16 cause the dealer had a 9..i bust with a nine he turns over 9/A for 20...lol...so rigged cause i suckkkkk

scorer
08-14-2006, 12:57 PM
Well can't cancel the promo and i will bust out. 2 hands dealt 2 lost....saga continues

Lessu
08-14-2006, 12:58 PM
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started with $400. got it up to $780 bettin $2 5-handed. +$680/4hrs

rigged?

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I've gotta start trying this. I get so bored doing $2 games one at a time. Usually end up upping it to $5 a hand to get the bonus moving. Hasn't hurt yet though.

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I played about 3hands/minute on average so that's 15x $2 hands. If you can play 15hands/minute single handed then you're fine.

Lessu
08-14-2006, 12:59 PM
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Well can't cancel the promo and i will bust out. 2 hands dealt 2 lost....saga continues

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variance.

scorer
08-14-2006, 01:03 PM
here's the 4 hands i had after taking a break for a few hours. This is beyond incredible, hero 2/4/J/9 vs dealer 9/A, hero 5/Q vs dealer 4/6/7, hero 9/3/6 vs dealer 2/10/9, hero 5/6 double down 3/ vs dealer 4/K/4, 4 in a row i have played approx 1600 of my WR and am down to 160, no frigging way is this variance no way i played 4 other casinos and none not one was as bad. Question is what do i gasmble with so i dont lose it all

jonyy6788
08-14-2006, 01:08 PM
You lost 4 hands in a row!!!!!!!!!!????!!!!??????

tqo123
08-14-2006, 01:08 PM
That's just running bad. With -.5% ev using the chart, you have 65% chance of losing another $32.50. I would play five hands of $1 each and hope to at least salvage my original $100 and possibly make a few bucks.

Good Luck.

Lessu
08-14-2006, 01:17 PM
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here's the 4 hands i had after taking a break for a few hours. This is beyond incredible, hero 2/4/J/9 vs dealer 9/A, hero 5/Q vs dealer 4/6/7, hero 9/3/6 vs dealer 2/10/9, hero 5/6 double down 3/ vs dealer 4/K/4, 4 in a row i have played approx 1600 of my WR and am down to 160, no frigging way is this variance no way i played 4 other casinos and none not one was as bad. Question is what do i gasmble with so i dont lose it all

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lol. If you can't handle that kind of swings maybe this isn't for you. Variance is a bitch

You have lost like 50 bets now. Been there many times. Sure it's more fun when you win those 50 bets but it's gotta happen both ways.

Take a break and play again tomorrow before you bet it all on one hand

scorer
08-14-2006, 01:20 PM
tgo123 and jonyy, the wagering requirement is 8000 dollars. If i bet 1.00 per hand ill be dead before i finish the wagering requirement. Yeah i lost 4 in a row but to prove my point ill play another 4 hands at 5 each and post.

Ken_AA
08-14-2006, 01:24 PM
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tgo123 and jonyy, the wagering requirement is 8000 dollars. If i bet 1.00 per hand ill be dead before i finish the wagering requirement. Yeah i lost 4 in a row but to prove my point ill play another 4 hands at 5 each and post.

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Wow, 4 more hands will really prove your point.

We also need a sticky telling people not to put any money into an online casino if they will freak out if they lose it.

Ken

scorer
08-14-2006, 01:28 PM
Ken, your right posting hands will not prove anything. However aren't you in fact the owner and have a direct interest in games gift?? If so that's fine and good, but you act as if they are a 3rd person to you when in factr they are the same, am i wrong...

1huskerfan
08-14-2006, 01:30 PM
Thats why they call it gambling.

scorer
08-14-2006, 01:32 PM
huskerfan, yes i agree. However it says with the wizard of odds chart the house edge is less then 1 percent, to start at 400 and go down to 170 betting 5 per hand in only maybe 15 percent of the way thru the wr is at best questionable. Live and learn.

1huskerfan
08-14-2006, 01:42 PM
You are down 46 units after betting 300 units. This will happen 0.5% of the time (1 in 200.) I don't think this is TOO questionable. You WILL bust at some point chasing Casino bonuses if you stick with it. You have to take the good with the bad.

Badger
08-14-2006, 01:43 PM
This game is not rigged, you are having a bad run. Seriously you should just bet it all. Get it over with quick or build your balance back up to something you can continue to play with. Besides the more you bet the more profitable the situation is.

Lessu
08-14-2006, 01:47 PM
scorer: How long does it take for you to play 4 hands? I got this feeling that it takes a real effort from you to play 4 hands perfectly. It should take like 5-6 seconds per hand on average to play at playtech's software.

You said you have played 4 casinos before this so you should know the chart by heart

terrellk11
08-14-2006, 02:09 PM
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You said you have played 4 casinos before this so you should know the chart by heart

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That assumes the same chart applies to all four casinos, which very well may not be true.

Lessu
08-14-2006, 02:11 PM
The basic strategy is the same. If there are few things different it shouldn't take long to adjust your game to that.

guillaumezur
08-14-2006, 02:20 PM
up to 430$

waiting for the cash out, nice software nice support

don t play bj if you cry after a bad run

otter
08-14-2006, 02:37 PM
I won about $400 there

brendanb438
08-14-2006, 04:09 PM
I won $900 there. Sounds to me like the OP is getting too damn emotional and I bet has played a few hands incorrectly per the charts he should be using. There isn't anyway the OP hasn't started to tilt.

-Brendan

coleco
08-14-2006, 04:44 PM
BJ is a joke of a game

car ramrod
08-14-2006, 05:06 PM
I cashed out $1200 from Golden Palace doing $25/hand. I got my brother to finally try out casino bonuses, and he busted out doing $5/hand. I tried to explain to him about variance but he felt the same way as you. Sometimes you are going to lose. It sucks, but you just have to deal with it and go hit up the next one. Good luck.

crovax4444
08-14-2006, 09:24 PM
I love reading scorer's stuff. If your whining about losing 4 hands, then your going to hate losing 20 out of 25 bets, several times. Just yesterday I went +--++-----+----(tie)------++ on some blackjack. Look at that! I lost 4 bets in a row 3 times in that set. Cry me a river, this stuff is normal. If you can't handle losing hundreds within 100 hands of blackjack, don't play the game.

Crovax

scorer
08-14-2006, 11:05 PM
crovax glad you enjoy reading my posts!!! I have played intercasino,starluck,planetluck,bet 365 and now this casino. I started with 400, 100 deposit 300 bonus for 400. Im thru wagering about 1600 and am down to 75 dollars playing by the chart. I haven't seen cards being dealt like this over and over anywhere else. My point about those 4 hands was i was losing and losing and returned to play to this crap. If you'd like ill post all my hands for you to see this. At this point i would take half my money back and quit. I have as much chance to walk away even with 100 bucks as hitting lotto. Ive played 4 other casino's and this is second to none in a joke for myself

Blowup Doll
08-14-2006, 11:12 PM
Casino bonuses aren't for you. Go play something without variance... like poker.

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I won 23 hands in a row playing War. I lost 19 hands in a row playing BJ. Rigged? I hope so! Cuz i've made $8k now playing casino bonuses in the past month.

scorer
08-15-2006, 05:15 AM
Blowup doll, you might be very much correct, you lost 19 in a row playing blackjack strategy, that is scary. Officially i have busted out of golden palace and it has really made me wonder what i have always questioned. Can i trust a casino that easily can have a bias to the house. I have played a total of 5 casino's blackjack. plus 140, even, even, plus 180, minus 100. 220 total winnnings divided by 5 casino's is about 45 total winnings per casino= total waste of my time for all the time involved. Golden palace had the most one sided rng i have ever seen. It made horse racing look more legit then i know it is since ive worked in that industry. For those who made alot of money at golden im happy for you. Flaweed rng?? You say no way..HOWEVER, read on casinomeister how mansion casino had a problem with there vidoe poker as they recyled discards, common problem that most don't realize in the rng until someone complains. This can happen unfortunately and something was a miss that over and over betting 5.00 or less i lost over and over and i wagered 2000 of an 8000 wr. Something was very not right there, for those who make money there and elsewhere good for you, i'd rather stick to poker.

Blowup Doll
08-15-2006, 09:15 AM
Scorer, what's your worst downswing ever in poker? Had a 300BB one yet? 500BB? When you do, will you scream "rigged!" again?

Variance sucks. But for every downswing you've experienced, there's an opposite upswing. That's the way it is.

Jibba
08-15-2006, 09:22 AM
Yeah ... I'm learning quickly that they can be brutal. Was finishing up a bonus yesterday and started off at about $240. Within 10 minutes I was over $375. Less than 20 minutes later I was under $150. Stuck with it a little longer and finished right back around $230 ($130 profit on the bonus). Made the rookie error of continuing after I hit my WR though because I couldn't lose at the time. Could have been worse.