Strange blackjack rule at Bet365 and how to deal with it

[spino1i]

One of the blackjack rules which I dont think ive seen in any other casino is:

"If the player doubles and the dealer's first card is of value 11 (ACE), and the dealer gets Blackjack, the player loses both his bets. If the dealer’s first card is of value 10, and the dealer gets Blackjack, the player gets the Double bet back."

How does this effect strategy when doubling down with an 11 against an Ace? How much does the help the house's edge? I looked through wizardofodds.com but couldnt find any mention of this rule..

[spino1i]

just discovered this rule never comes into play using perfect strategy when dealer stands on soft 17 (the rules at bet365). The chart never has you double down against an ace, no matter what you have.

[metsandfinsfan]

always works that way

[scorer]

Wizard of odds blackjack table, anybody see any errors or play differently then the chart

[MicroBob]

Checking for blackjack AFTER the hand is complete like that is called European-Rules blackjack I believe.

[otter]

yep that's what it's called. Basically you don't want to put more money out there when it's possible that the dealer has a blackjack so you wouldn't double 11 vs 10 or split 8's vs a 10 and probably not A's either.

[kyleb]

http://wizardofodds.com/blackjack/strategy/european.html

[bpb]

This is not european no-peek blackjack. It is some strange bastardized version of no-peek only found at playtech.

You lose splits and doubles vs an dealer blackjack with an A showing.
You lose splits vs a dealer blackjack with a T showing
You get back your doubles vs a dealer blackjack with a T showing


See http://wizardofodds.com/playtech

[Spaderess]

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How does this effect strategy when doubling down with an 11 against an Ace? How much does the help the house's edge? I looked through wizardofodds.com but couldnt find any mention of this rule..

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The adjustments for ENHC (European No Hole Card) rules are quite easy. Never put down additional money (eg. doubles and splits) against dealer 10 or Ace. There's excetption to this, you should still split AA vs. 10.

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If the dealer’s first card is of value 10, and the dealer gets Blackjack, the player gets the Double bet back."


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Meaning, you should skip the ENHC adjustment in this case.

If you play BJ regularly you should learn this and not rely on charts.

[Shrug]

What is the HA of ENHC vs. "regular" BJ?
Sounds like I would skip EHNC altogether.

[Yads]

Using european no hole card rule you never double against a ten or an ace.

[Spaderess]

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What is the HA of ENHC vs. "regular" BJ?
Sounds like I would skip EHNC altogether.

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It costs you 0.1% In this case a little less since they're still checking hole cards with a 10 up.