Mansion Risk Free Betting?

[Ragingg]

Just got this email from mansion.com

Get up to GBP 100 Cash-back from MANSION Sportsbook. Place an Asian Handicap bet on Tottenham Hotspur for their match on Saturday 19 August. If your bet is not a winner, MANSION will refund your losses, up to GBP 100 (or currency equivalent) within 48 hours.

Is there a catch? I'm definitely new to sports betting.

[Nick-Zack]

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Just got this email from mansion.com

Get up to GBP 100 Cash-back from MANSION Sportsbook. Place an Asian Handicap bet on Tottenham Hotspur for their match on Saturday 19 August. If your bet is not a winner, MANSION will refund your losses, up to GBP 100 (or currency equivalent) within 48 hours.

Is there a catch? I'm definitely new to sports betting.

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I got the email also but can't figure out what an Asian Handicap is or even where to find Tottenham on their site.

[Ragingg]

There's a tutorial about the Asian handicap (the name is awfully racist in my opinion =D). I guess basically it's a way to balance the odds out (a spread). So for example, if the Marlins play the Detroit Tigers, and the Tigers are the favorite, they'll assign the handicap of 3 runs. Then, if the final score is 1-3 (Tigers win), they add the 3 runs to the Marlins and it becomes 4-3 (Marlins win). Something like that...

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A possible catch might be that you must bet more than 100GBP?

[catamite]

No catch. Mansion just signed a shirt sponsorship deal with English Premier League side Tottenham Hotspur worth £34m. They're bankrolled bigtime, by Putera Sampoerna among others, so will be competing with the big boys, Betfair, Bet365, etc.

As for the game itself, Bolton v Tottenham, I think pre-season form belongs to Tottenham and they're worth the punt at -0.5. I'd be reluctant to put them down at -1 but it is a free bet after all. Place your bets early so you can catch them before the lines move.

You can read more in my upcoming European football column next week.

[Yads]

I've done one of these promos before and they refunded my bet within a couple of days. It's a great promotion.

[Homer]

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Just got this email from mansion.com

Get up to GBP 100 Cash-back from MANSION Sportsbook. Place an Asian Handicap bet on Tottenham Hotspur for their match on Saturday 19 August. If your bet is not a winner, MANSION will refund your losses, up to GBP 100 (or currency equivalent) within 48 hours.

Is there a catch? I'm definitely new to sports betting.

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I got the email also but can't figure out what an Asian Handicap is or even where to find Tottenham on their site.

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It's under Sportsbook -> Soccer -> English Premiership (I think)

Bet on the line without a draw option. Right now it's -119.

[chigger]

Is there really no catch?

I have no money in Mansion at the moment, so if I deposit will I have some crappy bonus and WR before I could cash out?

[playersare]

100GBP is nothing to Putera. he's just buying himself a nice worldwide cheering section.

[BlissY]

When they say "currency equivalent" does that mean 100 in another currency, or the actual value of 100 GBP in that currency?

[Ortho]

You can get $190.

[john kane]

i have a mansion poker account. i do i go about getting this free bet?

many thanks.

[Ortho]

You just make an asian handicap bet on Tottenham Hotspur in their match against Bolton in the sportsbook (make sure you don't do it on the exchange). But you should always read the T&Cs on the site, of course, to make sure that what I'm telling you is accurate.

Edit: I'm not happy with the tone of my post. I didn't mean that to sound condescending in any way, but I wasn't sure how exactly to say it.

[Halo7]

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Is there really no catch?

I have no money in Mansion at the moment, so if I deposit will I have some crappy bonus and WR before I could cash out?

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If you haven't ever made a deposit at Mansion, you will get their 1st time deposit bonus, which has restrictions to be able to cash it out. If you haven't made an initial deposit, I would recommend getting the nice bonus they offer, clearing it, and then making the risk free sportsbet. We just put updated our article about how to profitably clear the initial bonus on our site, but in a nutshell, play red or black on their single zero roulette table with the help of an autoclicker.

Halo7

[Sand]

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Is there really no catch?

I have no money in Mansion at the moment, so if I deposit will I have some crappy bonus and WR before I could cash out?

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If you haven't ever made a deposit at Mansion, you will get their 1st time deposit bonus, which has restrictions to be able to cash it out. If you haven't made an initial deposit, I would recommend getting the nice bonus they offer, clearing it, and then making the risk free sportsbet. We just put updated our article about how to profitably clear the initial bonus on our site, but in a nutshell, play red or black on their single zero roulette table with the help of an autoclicker.

Halo7

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If anyone is into poker more than sportsbetting, there is an affiliate out there with a sweet (terribly easy to clear) extra bonus. Not to mentin their poker bonus is incremental (a la Absolute), so you don't have to clear a huge chunk. You can then utilize this free bet rollover free.

[brendanb438]

This is a really good deal. If you are interested in the affiliate Sand's mentioned they offer a $90 kickback on top of Mansion's signup bonus. Plus with this deal if you place a bet on the other team on say Pinny for $80 you will get $79 profit on this bet no matter what. This is a really nice hedge bet. PM me for details or questions if you need help with this one.

-Brendan

[136913691369]

Is everyone open to this promotion? Even if you did not receive an e-mail?

[brendanb438]

Everyone is per their website. Hell of a deal!

[lumpy19]

So if my account is in USD I can bet ~$190 and they'll refund that if I lose?

[thomasperfecto]

The handicaop is +0 for both teams. Surely that means that there is no handicap right?

[thomasperfecto]

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The handicaop is +0 for both teams. Surely that means that there is no handicap right?

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It's ok I've figured it out. If the game ends in a draw you get your money back.

[108]

I got the email as well. Placed my bet for USD$180, which is a little below 100GBP (in case the market fluctuates between now and the 19th).

I couldn't find the correct game for a little while, until I realised that the Mansion website displays all game dates/times in your local time. (Mine was GMT+10, so the game actually starts on Sunday for me).

Go Tottenham, err... whoever they are.

[thomasperfecto]

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I got the email as well. Placed my bet for USD$180, which is a little below 100GBP (in case the market fluctuates between now and the 19th).

I couldn't find the correct game for a little while, until I realised that the Mansion website displays all game dates/times in your local time. (Mine was GMT+10, so the game actually starts on Sunday for me).

Go Tottenham, err... whoever they are.

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Damn I was flicking through the channels looking for the game untill I realised it was NEXT sat. Doh!

[brendanb438]

Yeah the game is next Sat. Remember to place the bet in the Sportsbook not the Exchange. You can then place a bet at Pinny on the other team of $80 and you will win $78 no matter who wins as long as there isn't a tie, if a tie happens all bets are a push. Also like I said earlier you can get an extra $90 from an affiliate and all you have to do is place a $50 sportsbet which this bet will clear that requirement. Very nice deal if you want more info PM me..

-Brendan

[thomasperfecto]

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Yeah the game is next Sat. Remember to place the bet in the Sportsbook not the Exchange. You can then place a bet at Pinny on the other team of $80 and you will win $78 no matter who wins as long as there isn't a tie, if a tie happens all bets are a push. Also like I said earlier you can get an extra $90 from an affiliate and all you have to do is place a $50 sportsbet which this bet will clear that requirement. Very nice deal if you want more info PM me..

-Brendan

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Sorry but whats this Pinny?

[ballyho]

is this link relevant ?
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/casi...html#post115162 (http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/casino-complaints-bonus-issues/13353-bonus-issues-mansion-casino-6.html#post115162)

[brendanb438]

Pinnacle Sports. Mansion is getting looked at for their VP, I would suggest not playing it. The house edge seems to be higher than advertised. No one has had any problems with them other than with that VP, and it looks like that is a problem with the software developer not Mansion. I believe that when Mansion accepts something is wrong with the VP they will probably go back and look at everyone who played and issue refunds of some sort because of it being off.

-Brendan

[1huskerfan]

Pinney = Pinnacle Sports Betting

They have pretty aggresive 8 cent lines.

[brendanb438]

Only a couple more days to make this risk free bet everyone. Can't go wrong with a $190 risk free bet.

-Brendan

[SoloAJ]

Thanks boys. I guess I am joined on for $180 to win about $150. Go Trot on Saturday!

[PokerintheI]

Mansion VP,

The video poker was reshuffleing discards before the redraw. So you could throw away the 6 of clubs and then get it back when you redrew. This resulted in what I have been told is an additional 3% HA. They have been reviewing accounts, but they are being pretty sh1tty about it so far.

[lumpy19]

well i screwed up. Thinking about tottenham i hedged my bet at pinny by putting another 80 on tottenham instead of on bolton. What a friggin moron.

Wondering if I should cover my stupidity by putting another bet of $160 on bolton.

[SoloAJ]

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well i screwed up. Thinking about tottenham i hedged my bet at pinny by putting another 80 on tottenham instead of on bolton. What a friggin moron.

Wondering if I should cover my stupidity by putting another bet of $160 on bolton.

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Ride it out. How could they lose with the biggest gambling cheering section?

[brendanb438]

I say ride it out also.. Seems a lot of people are having trouble with this one.. I have helped a dozen people via PM with hedging this one and with the $90 kickback for signing up for Mansion. If anyone else needs help or wants the kickback PM me.

-Brendan

[catamite]

It's a poor line but I see a Tottenham win nonetheless.

[SoloAJ]

Just to make sure I did this right...

I made an asian handicap bet on Trot....that is all you have to do right? You don't have to notify Mansion in any way or anything?

[Lessu]

yup. never heard anyone saying you need to something in addition to placing the bet and there's nothing in the t&c either. you'll be fine

[Homer]

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Is there really no catch?

I have no money in Mansion at the moment, so if I deposit will I have some crappy bonus and WR before I could cash out?

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If you haven't ever made a deposit at Mansion, you will get their 1st time deposit bonus, which has restrictions to be able to cash it out. If you haven't made an initial deposit, I would recommend getting the nice bonus they offer, clearing it, and then making the risk free sportsbet. We just put updated our article about how to profitably clear the initial bonus on our site, but in a nutshell, play red or black on their single zero roulette table with the help of an autoclicker.

Halo7

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This sounds like a poor strategy. WR is 40k (20 times 1000+1000), HA is 2.7%. Expected loss from play is $1080. Bonus is $1000. So in all your EV is -$80. What am I missing?

[136913691369]

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Is there really no catch?

I have no money in Mansion at the moment, so if I deposit will I have some crappy bonus and WR before I could cash out?

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If you haven't ever made a deposit at Mansion, you will get their 1st time deposit bonus, which has restrictions to be able to cash it out. If you haven't made an initial deposit, I would recommend getting the nice bonus they offer, clearing it, and then making the risk free sportsbet. We just put updated our article about how to profitably clear the initial bonus on our site, but in a nutshell, play red or black on their single zero roulette table with the help of an autoclicker.

Halo7

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This sounds like a poor strategy. WR is 40k (20 times 1000+1000), HA is 2.7%. Expected loss from play is $1080. Bonus is $1000. So in all your EV is -$80. What am I missing?

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It's european roulette so the HA is only 1.35% which gives an EV of $460 one of the best bonuses out there IMO.

On a related note, I just wanna make sure this doesn't change the HA. Say I am betting even, red, and 1-18 at $20 each. This doesn't change the HA does it?

[1huskerfan]

No. HA is still 1.35%

[catamite]

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Is there really no catch?

I have no money in Mansion at the moment, so if I deposit will I have some crappy bonus and WR before I could cash out?

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If you haven't ever made a deposit at Mansion, you will get their 1st time deposit bonus, which has restrictions to be able to cash it out. If you haven't made an initial deposit, I would recommend getting the nice bonus they offer, clearing it, and then making the risk free sportsbet. We just put updated our article about how to profitably clear the initial bonus on our site, but in a nutshell, play red or black on their single zero roulette table with the help of an autoclicker.

Halo7

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This sounds like a poor strategy. WR is 40k (20 times 1000+1000), HA is 2.7%. Expected loss from play is $1080. Bonus is $1000. So in all your EV is -$80. What am I missing?

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You are missing a fair bit. If you play European Roulette, the HA is lowered, as it is single 0 and half of your bet is returned on even money bets if it lands on the 0.

Therefore, EV on even money bets (assuming bet is on red) is:
(EV(red) + EV(black) + EV(Zero))/37 = ((2)(18) + (0)(18) + (0.5)(1))/37 = 0.9864864

Therefore, HA on even is 1.351351%.

Therefore, EV on signup bonus is:
1000-(40000)(0.01351351) = $459.46 (2dp)

We must also run through another $1000 wagering after bonus is promoted before cashout. We can play single-hand blackjack so it will not dip more than a few bucks into EV.

I am a Mansion affiliate and am offering $90 kickback, PM me if interested. I'll send a guide and a few tools to help.

[thomasperfecto]

I don't understand how you get the $90 from pokersavvy. It seems you need 1000 points to get $100 and you only get 900 for mansion, so then you have to do another promo to get another 900 points or refer 2 players.

[catamite]

Bump. Match is in around 2 hours, so last chance to jump on it.

[Nick-Zack]

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You just make an asian handicap bet on Tottenham Hotspur in their match against Bolton in the sportsbook (make sure you don't do it on the exchange).

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I am the idiot that bet in the stupid exchange. Now I have $170 riding on a team that I have never heard of, in a sport that bores me to death, that I have no way of even watching to cheer for.

Sigh

[catamite]

You can watch live courtesy of TVants.

http://cache.tvants.com/

Download and install the software, the channel that will show it is the first one on the list.

Since it's in Chinese, here's a walkthrough:

Download and install:
http://download.tvants.com/pub/tvants/tvants1/win32/bin/TvantsSetup.EXE

Then load this link in your browser:
tvants://www.tvants.com/tvants/?k=b04ddf44d52c7830

It's a P2P videostream service. Commentary is in Cantonese. Match starts 17.15 GMT (12.15 EST).

[MicroBob]

friend of mine says it's on the Fox Soccer Channel (even invited me over to watch it with him).


I did the same thing, bet on the sports-exchange accidentally.

All you need to do is bet $150 or $160 or so for Bolton over on Pinnacle or WSEX to counter-balance it.

And bet $180 again on Mansion on the sportsbook side.


This is what I did. I now have over $550 in action on this game on two different books which feels really weird since my standard sports-bet is $10.

If Bolton wins I lose $1.
If Tottenham wins I make $150.

I lost a few bucks to the juice by accidentally betting in the exchange and having to do all these other bets to make up for it, but it's no big deal

[ImsaKidd]

Go Tottenheim! I didnt balance my wagers, so they better win...

[catamite]

16mins played, Bolton 2-0 Tottenham

[The.Accountant]

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Go Tottenheim! I didnt balance my wagers, so they better win...

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I guess you're not watching the game...

[sonneti]

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16mins played, Bolton 2-0 Tottenham

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lol i thought you were only joking... /images/graemlins/frown.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/bolton_wanderers/live_text/default.stm

[robert4444]

Ok so they better pay out this refund so I can collect $82 profit!

[Packard]

Its offical.

Tottenham lost

[robert4444]

I know but i still made the profit /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[thomasperfecto]

Gay

[robert4444]

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Gay

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yes, and richer too !! /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

[JackOfSpeed]

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Gay

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yes, and richer too !! /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/heart.gif

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I find it interesting that someone who made $80 on this would brag. Basically you sacrifice a few $ in EV and waste some extra time to place the second bet just to avoid variance on a bet which isn't even that large (I mean, I guess if you have a microbankroll this is a big bet, but w/e). Congrats on being a poo-see, I'll take my Sklansky Bucks from this one and move on to a big score next time /images/graemlins/laugh.gif.

[wax42]

Do we have to email them or anything to get the refund or will we get it automatically?

[scorer]

your refund is needed by them to pay the people who got stiffed on video poker/ just kidding

[Packard]

Its says in Mansion T&C....

"All refunds will be placed into Member accounts within 48 hours."

[sunnypoker]

lol lets report robert4444 cuz technically u weren't allowed to put 2 bets on it (on opposing teams)

[Ortho]

Live chat confirmed this for me as well (automatic within 48 hours).

[brendanb438]

Hell I hedged my bet and made $80 too. The extra 30 seconds it took to place the 2nd bet on Pinny was well worth it. I don't know anything about English Soccer and sure I gave up some EV but hell $80 for 3 minutes of work is pretty damn good. Nothing wrong with the man making this a sure thing.

-Brendan

[MicroBob]

obviously you don't bet on the other team at the same site.
He probably placed the Bolton bet on Pinnacle or somewhere.

[Bellagibro]

Anybody paid yet?

[thomasperfecto]

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Anybody paid yet?

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Not me and we're getting close to the 48hrs they quoted.

[thomasperfecto]

I just asked support and they it should be within 48hrs but due to huge demmand it may take a little longer. I'd just hold tight now, I'm sure we'll be paid soon enough.

[Emilie11]

Just been told that it will take another day before we get the refund.

[catamite]

They just sent me an email saying all accounts will be credited by Tuesday 7pm GMT (Tuesday 2pm EST).

[Halo7]

FYI, I bet $190 since they said that was the maximum with the conversion. OMG looks like I am gonna lose .15, those bastards.
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Dear Member,

Thank you for taking part in our Tottenham Cash-Back promotion on their Saturday 19 August match against Bolton.

Early goals from Bolton's Kevin Davies and Ivan Campo gave the home team a first-half advantage. Despite a strong start to the second half, Tottenham was unable to make up the deficit and suffered a 2-0 defeat at the Reebok Stadium.

As a result of the Tottenham defeat, MANSION will credit your Member account (USERNAME) with USD 189.85 as the calculated net loss amount of your qualified Asian Handicap bet in the Tottenham Cash-Back promotion. Due to the popularity of this offer we anticipate finalising all payments no later than 19:00GMT, Tuesday 22 August.

We hope that this promotion has whet your appetite for English Premier League betting with MANSION and that you will continue to choose MANSION for better odds and some of the highest internet betting limits in the industry.

If you have not already visited our Sports Exchange, we invite you to discover why MANSION is quickly becoming recognised as a market leader in high-value offerings on professional sport. Be sure to check MANSION Sports Exchange odds before you place your next bet.

Thank you for taking part in this Cash-back offer.
We hope this was a promotion worth talking about and would appreciate when you have a moment to tell your friends about MANSION.

Best regards,

MANSION.
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A full dollar if they don't allow fractional cashouts.

[136913691369]

I bet $190 as well and they are only giving me back $188.

[HRFats]

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I bet $190 as well and they are only giving me back $188.

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I was all scheduled to place this bet then forgot about it until Sunday morning. Hindsight being 20/20 I'm glad I missed it...

[Emilie11]

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I bet $190 as well and they are only giving me back $188.

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I was all scheduled to place this bet then forgot about it until Sunday morning. Hindsight being 20/20 I'm glad I missed it...

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Glad I missed it? It was about 80$ for free!

[scorer]

I would strongly urge anybody to go thru CATAMITE in this thread for mansion as hes an affiliate and very trustworthy as i have done business with him prior. He will offer the same bonus as pokersavvy, However hes part of the 2plus2 community and we should stay within our family at 2plus2 for this. My 2 cents.

[thomasperfecto]

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I bet $190 as well and they are only giving me back $188.

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I was all scheduled to place this bet then forgot about it until Sunday morning. Hindsight being 20/20 I'm glad I missed it...

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Glad I missed it? It was about 80$ for free!

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$90 with the pokersavvy kickback

[brendanb438]

I received my refund earlier today. Hope everyone took advantage of this one. I arbed this with Pinny's lines. Free money is free money.

-Brendan

[thomasperfecto]

Oh great the didn't tell me I need fking ID. Wnkers

[Lessu]

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Oh great the didn't tell me I need fking ID. Wnkers

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That's not a big problem, is it?

just got my bet back

[thomasperfecto]

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Oh great the didn't tell me I need fking ID. Wnkers

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That's not a big problem, is it?

just got my bet back

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Not really I'm just peed at casinos/bookies always making it a ball ache to withdraw.

[Ortho]

It's only the first time. Mansion is an excellent book. If you're going to do this stuff, you're going to have to get used to it. I provide docs probably 3x/month.

And if not, I know that previous posts about Mansion in this forum mentioned the ID thing.

[thomasperfecto]

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It's only the first time. Mansion is an excellent book. If you're going to do this stuff, you're going to have to get used to it. I provide docs probably 3x/month.

And if not, I know that previous posts about Mansion in this forum mentioned the ID thing.

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I know I know it's all part of the game. It just gets to me sometimes.
You'd never see them asking for ID before you could deposit eh?

[Ortho]

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You'd never see them asking for ID before you could deposit eh?

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I agree that this would be a much better system.

[thomasperfecto]

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You'd never see them asking for ID before you could deposit eh?

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I agree that this would be a much better system.

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I just wish they'd make things clearer and know they stick in T&C's but their usually 10 pages deep and 2pt font

[E.Z.]

anyone having probs getting your savvy points?? tried to claim mine and they said good luck at the tables.

hope you can still clear mansion through the sportsbook??

[Lessu]

sure you can

don't know if they intented it this way but my friend got savvypoints from only betting on the risk-free bet

[Packard]

My Savvy Points for Mansion took about 10 days to get.