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TJD
08-09-2006, 04:56 PM
Hi guys this is not a party is fixed post just a genuine question.

I played their BJ this evening looking to clear today's bonus.

The strategy I used is pretty standard and should produce an edge for party of just less than 0.5%.

However, in the session I just had, partys results were outside of 3SD from the expected despite a healthy number of hands for the binomial distribution approximation to the normal to be reasonable.

Now , OK that will happen from time to time about 1 in 200 or so but for my own peace of mind, I was just checking with you guys that your results have been where you would have expected them. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Thanks all

t

MatthewRyan
08-09-2006, 05:08 PM
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should produce an edge for party of just less than 0.5%.



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TJD
08-10-2006, 12:35 PM
Thx for the reply but a bit cryptic for me.

Are you saying that you have played on PP BJ and that in your experience the house advantage seems to be 0.5%?

Or did you copy the qoute and then forget to put your comment?

Or was the quote on it's own supposed to pass some other obvious message that I have missed. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

t

OnePatheticLoser
08-10-2006, 12:49 PM
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Or was the quote on it's own supposed to pass some other obvious message that I have missed.

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Freakin
08-10-2006, 02:30 PM
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Thx for the reply but a bit cryptic for me.

Are you saying that you have played on PP BJ and that in your experience the house advantage seems to be 0.5%?

Or did you copy the qoute and then forget to put your comment?

Or was the quote on it's own supposed to pass some other obvious message that I have missed. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

t

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he is saying your strategy is the problem

thomasperfecto
08-10-2006, 03:12 PM
It's rigged.
Just email CS, tell them you're on to it and they'll refund you.

TJD
08-10-2006, 07:12 PM
Well I shall continue to see if I can get a sensible answer.

The strategy is not the problem as you and I both know.

Do you have anything sensible to add or is a silly comment as much as you can manage?

I asked an absolutely straightforward question for reassurance. So far I have a cryptic; you silly response and a comedian.

Does anybody on this board ever reply sensibly just to help?

Is there a "joke" forum?

Is this where these should go?

Thanks

t

Frogic
08-10-2006, 07:18 PM
Just do whatever feels lucky.

Frogic

TJD
08-10-2006, 07:33 PM
A comedian? Do you get out much?

As I stated in my OP this is NOT a party is rigged post.

Do you have evidence that Party is rigged? If not you should be careful. Making such libelous comment could land you in trouble.

Of course it is always possible that Party IS rigged. It would be stupid of them to do so but anything is possible.

I experienced a session that was 0.5% likely to happen by sheer chance. I made clear that chance was the likely culprit but I asked whether others had experienced the same or whether their much longer experience than mine had led them to believe that all was OK. My previous session was when they offered the $50 "free" bonus. I bet just 50 times and the net result was me 18 wins ; Party 32 wins. Too small to be significant statistically but to pursue 2 bomues and be faced with 2 sets of results so far from average just got me thinking.

All it takes is some replies from players who have played significant numbers of hands who have actually seen results in the expected range to reassure me that all is well.

Why is that too much to ask? Is your natural assumption that everyone, and every organsisation in the world is up front and honest? Are you too young to have heard of Watergate and Enron and many thousands of others?

Your reply is childish and unhelpful.

IF and I stress IF a company like PP was cheating its customers then they would be stupid so it is unlikely. BUT IF they are, it is boards like 2+2 who share information on their experiences that would be the catalyst for detection.

My post was serious. All it would take is replies saying, "yep 0.5% looks fine for me and I am up!" Or, "I have cleared bonuses for the last 12 months and my results are perfectly consistent with a 0.5% edge"

However, if there were a huge number of replies saying, "I too have been hit by a 0.5% chance and this always happens around the times bonuses are offered" then should we not be concerned?

If you had nothing to add could you not have just surfed your favourite porn site and satisfied yourself that way?

t

TJD
08-10-2006, 07:36 PM
I'll have half of what you've had. Must be good stuff.

What planet are you from?

t

ubercuber
08-11-2006, 06:08 AM
I have never played party BJ but I would say, based on the lack of echoed concerns (if for no other reason), that you can assume you are on the recieving end of bad lack, nothing more.

thomasperfecto
08-11-2006, 02:49 PM
Ok buddy what exactly where your results?
You say they where outside of 3SD but what where the exact results of your session?

alphatmw
08-11-2006, 03:27 PM
omfg. you have no idea how to calculate SD. post this in the probaility forums and prepare to get your ass handed to you.

novel20
08-11-2006, 07:23 PM
Ridiculous. You have no idea what you are talking about. So if you won 18 and PP won 32 in 50 hands, you are thinking it is rigged? First off you don't have a strategy that gives PP only 0.5%. Second, the results you provide does not happen with only 0.5% chance. Third, if I tell you based on what you said, there is 2.5% chance that you are retarded, do you get what I mean?

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S
08-11-2006, 11:43 PM
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Is there a "joke" forum?

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thomasperfecto
08-12-2006, 06:49 AM
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Ridiculous. You have no idea what you are talking about. So if you won 18 and PP won 32 in 50 hands, you are thinking it is rigged? First off you don't have a strategy that gives PP only 0.5%. Second, the results you provide does not happen with only 0.5% chance. Third, if I tell you based on what you said, there is 2.5% chance that you are retarded, do you get what I mean?

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Hahaha thats great.
Can we do a formula for calculating R?