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stephan
08-01-2006, 04:25 PM
After 14 bets i'm already down $40 and i've only had a first card = two or better than than a q like 3 times? I've folded every other time the first card was lower than Q. Is that how it's supposed to work? These RAF [censored] suck because i'm down $50 now after 18 bets.

Don't let some guy here sucker you into to using his RAF code so he can get $50 while you lose $50 trying to clear a $25 bonus.

EDIT: What a [censored] ripoff. Lost $70 clearing a $25 bonus. Finished the bonus off by losing 8 straight hands in a row. Please learn from my experience, don't let some schmuck sucker you into using his RAF bonus.

kyleb
08-01-2006, 05:02 PM
The RAF is not -EV. However, it is stupid to do for other reasons.

Blowup Doll
08-01-2006, 05:11 PM
What do you mean the "first" card? Are you playing it like you have to have Q or better on the FIRST (leftmost) card???

stephan
08-01-2006, 05:20 PM
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What do you mean the "first" card? Are you playing it like you have to have Q or better on the FIRST (leftmost) card???

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Could have sworn i was told to play that way.

kyleb
08-01-2006, 05:23 PM
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What do you mean the "first" card? Are you playing it like you have to have Q or better on the FIRST (leftmost) card???

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Not sure why, but i could have sworn i was told to play that way.

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Are you [censored] kidding me?

Wow.

Blowup Doll
08-01-2006, 05:26 PM
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What do you mean the "first" card? Are you playing it like you have to have Q or better on the FIRST (leftmost) card???

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Could have sworn i was told to play that way.

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Where did you read the strategy? It could have been worded ambiguously.

OrianasDaad
08-01-2006, 05:35 PM
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After 14 bets i'm already down $40 and i've only had a first card = two or better than than a q like 3 times? I've folded every other time the first card was lower than Q. Is that how it's supposed to work? These RAF [censored] suck because i'm down $50 now after 18 bets.

Don't let some guy here sucker you into to using his RAF code so he can get $50 while you lose $50 trying to clear a $25 bonus.

EDIT: What a [censored] ripoff. Lost $70 clearing a $25 bonus. Finished the bonus off by losing 8 straight hands in a row. Please learn from my experience, don't let some schmuck sucker you into using his RAF bonus.

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3CP is pretty swingy. If you aren't playing the game correctly, it's even moreso. You aren't playing the game correctly, check www.wizardofodds.com (http://www.wizardofodds.com) for more info on 3CP.

Blowup Doll
08-01-2006, 05:37 PM
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After 14 bets i'm already down $40 and i've only had a first card = two or better than than a q like 3 times? I've folded every other time the first card was lower than Q. Is that how it's supposed to work? These RAF [censored] suck because i'm down $50 now after 18 bets.

Don't let some guy here sucker you into to using his RAF code so he can get $50 while you lose $50 trying to clear a $25 bonus.

EDIT: What a [censored] ripoff. Lost $70 clearing a $25 bonus. Finished the bonus off by losing 8 straight hands in a row. Please learn from my experience, don't let some schmuck sucker you into using his RAF bonus.

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3CP is pretty swingy. If you aren't playing the game correctly, it's even moreso. You aren't playing the game correctly, check www.wizardofodds.com (http://www.wizardofodds.com) for more info on 3CP.

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Ante and play is not that swingy. The SD is 1.6, compared to 1.2 for BJ, 2.9 for pairplus, and 4.42 for JoB. The problem is that you have to bet $5 hands at Starluck.

stephan
08-01-2006, 05:38 PM
I'd like to apologize for being such a [censored] and acting like such a noob. I would have thought this would be a more commmon mistake. I've played 250k+ Hold'em hands but I suddenly forget that order never matters in poker.

Auren
08-01-2006, 05:46 PM
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Ante and play is not that swingy. The SD is 1.6, compared to 1.2 for BJ, 2.9 for pairplus, and 4.42 for JoB. The problem is that you have to bet $5 hands at Starluck.


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Where did you find those numbers? And what's SD for casino war?

Blowup Doll
08-01-2006, 05:58 PM
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Ante and play is not that swingy. The SD is 1.6, compared to 1.2 for BJ, 2.9 for pairplus, and 4.42 for JoB. The problem is that you have to bet $5 hands at Starluck.


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Where did you find those numbers? And what's SD for casino war?

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At wizardofodds, and War (Go to war on ties) is 1.05. Clearly one of the lowest since it's basically a coin flip with a rare double-up.

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/houseadv.html

Thremp
08-01-2006, 06:01 PM
Wow.

OrianasDaad
08-01-2006, 06:19 PM
Good info, I hadn't looked at the SD for the different ways to play 3CP. Love the wizard.

Freakin
08-01-2006, 06:28 PM
fantastic... HA must be at least 75-85%