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CourtJester
08-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Ok first, i just started casino whoring, i already hit up star and planet and am on bet365. i have a few questions i havent been able to find out around here or other pages yet so ill ask here.
1) what determins your bet amount when whoring cashables when you have a bankroll, what if you dont have a bankroll
2) what determins your target when hitting up sticky's, and does sticky I or II matter for that target?
3) what were the first 3-5 cashables and 3-5 sticky's you did?
4) Oh yeah and what are big casinos that i should do more than the WR to clear a bonus so that i dont get bonus banned?
any and all help would be appreciated from you experienced whores, i already have casinodaves and casinobonuspages on my tabs in firefox and am trying to get as much info and strategy for casino whoring as possible, thanks all

The_Bankroll
08-01-2006, 01:16 PM
I'm still a newb at this too, but I can tell you some good cashable bonuses you can do now.

casino-on-net
golden palace
aceclub
omnicasino (+monthlies)

check out www.casinobonuspages.com (http://www.casinobonuspages.com) for some more ideas.

136913691369
08-01-2006, 06:18 PM
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Ok first, i just started casino whoring, i already hit up star and planet and am on bet365. i have a few questions i havent been able to find out around here or other pages yet so ill ask here.
1) what determins your bet amount when whoring cashables when you have a bankroll, what if you dont have a bankroll
2) what determins your target when hitting up sticky's, and does sticky I or II matter for that target?
3) what were the first 3-5 cashables and 3-5 sticky's you did?
4) Oh yeah and what are big casinos that i should do more than the WR to clear a bonus so that i dont get bonus banned?
any and all help would be appreciated from you experienced whores, i already have casinodaves and casinobonuspages on my tabs in firefox and am trying to get as much info and strategy for casino whoring as possible, thanks all

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1)bankroll. if u don't have a bankroll bet the minimum
2)bankroll
3)both lucks, bet 365 for cashables. del rio, club world, golden palace for stickies
4) I dont know, cover play doesn't work for me

Kstar3
08-03-2006, 10:24 PM
Anyone used Worldwide Vegas Casino or Club Dionysis for bonuses. The offers look very attractive.

Kstar

scorer
08-03-2006, 11:20 PM
Im very new at this, what are the stickies??

Auren
08-03-2006, 11:29 PM
I am practicing my T&C reading skills. Here is my analyzis of Worldwide Vegas Casino bonus.

1.Pending Bonus – Bonus money that has not been earned based on the play through requirements and is not available for wagering.
- Means any bonus you get you can not wager before clearing the requirements.

2. For bonuses greater than 40% they must wager the deposit plus associated bonus amount THIRTY (30) times (craps and roulette wagers are not included) to qualify for the bonus.
-Means that if you put in 500 and get 500 bonus you need to wager 30 000 before you can wager with bonus money.

3.Please note the overall account balance is allocated into two categories: banking (deposits and winnings) and bonus. Our system will always use the banking balance before the bonus balance. Only the banking balance will be available for withdrawals.
-Means that even after clering the 30 000 wagering requirements you still can't actually withdraw the 500 dollar bonus.



So if you play blackjack with 99.8% returns ( I doubt they have rules that allow so good returns.) on avarage you lose 600 dollars before being able to wager with bonuses. And since you only deposited 500 that means you will go bust. If you get lucky and manage to clear 30 000 wagering requirement with all of 500 left you still haven't won anything. You are not allowed to withdraw bonus money. So you will need to wager your own 500 and 500 bonus and hope doubling up which would allow you to withdraw 1500.

As conclusion I would say this bonus is impossible to do profitably. It is more profitable to just deposit them 500 without any bonus and gamble.

triten
08-03-2006, 11:30 PM
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4) Oh yeah and what are big casinos that i should do more than the WR to clear a bonus so that i dont get bonus banned?


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Just the monthly bonuses. All the cryptos, cherry, casino euro, etc. I wouldn't bother with coverplay for casinos you're only going to do once, which is most of them.

Ken_AA
08-04-2006, 12:17 AM
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4) Oh yeah and what are big casinos that i should do more than the WR to clear a bonus so that i dont get bonus banned?


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Just the monthly bonuses. All the cryptos, cherry, casino euro, etc. I wouldn't bother with coverplay for casinos you're only going to do once, which is most of them.

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I /images/graemlins/heart.gif that some people think casino's look at your play like its an NFL combine workout.

A casino wont offer you bonuses if you have withdrawn more then you have deposited after a certain period of time. I seriously can't believe they look at anything else.

Ken

BigDave
08-04-2006, 01:01 AM
I dont have first hand knowledge of the inner workings of an online casino so these are just my thoughts from my experiences:

For most legitimate sites, it really doesn't matter how you play the sign up bonus. You don't care what they think because you are gone and wont come back. The kinds of people that will get good reloads are not the kinds that deposit the minimum ammount for the max bonus.

I highly doubt that casinos check to see if you bet a 1 or 5 or 10 per hand straight for the enitre WR. I do however think they note who cashed out $112 or $90 on a $100 deposit. I mean what gambler that you know of leaves up $12?

This is why people get shut out for monthlies. Someone who cashes out either up a little or down a little is going to set off a flag. Again, at most places this is perfectly ok for you.

If you are just starting out, there are a ton of places to play, but it is a limited amount. There are some easy monthlies out there though that you will want to be able to play every month. They are:

Intercasino
Casino Cherry
Casino Euro
WIll Hill
Bettson
(there are more out there, but these are the best in my opinion.)

Intercasino and Will Hill are pretty hard to get banned from , unless you try to manipulate the system, make multiple identies, or something along those lines, not by depositing and whoring the bonus. I know Cherry and Euro (and more then likely Betsson too) for sure are reviewing accounts after three months. I am pretty confident in saying that people that are still getting the bonus after 3 months have probably busted at least one time. They really only care if you are capable of losing your deposit.

studmuffin
08-04-2006, 01:13 AM
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Anyone used Worldwide Vegas Casino or Club Dionysis for bonuses. The offers look very attractive.

Kstar

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Club Dionysus is owned by the same group as ABC Islands and Casino Jazz. Although it hasn't been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, a lot of people have busted out here (including me), and their proprietary software is suspected of cheating.

acewan
08-04-2006, 03:10 AM
Maybe it's just me but I don't find Cherry and Casinoeuro monthly's too attractive. I mean, 30% bonus with EV of $24 or so, how do you guys play it? I assume something like $10 a hand trying to run it up big?

Kstar3
08-04-2006, 11:25 AM
Auren,

If the loss rate on a $30,000WR is .2-.4%, that would be a loss of $60-$120, which would still seem acceptable on a $500 bonus.

Thremp
08-04-2006, 11:52 AM
Acewan,

It takes like 15 minutes to clear. Thats why its great.

Others,

I've played WWV before I don't suspect cheating unless they take from your accounts and giveth to mine.

Wilco666
08-04-2006, 12:18 PM
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Maybe it's just me but I don't find Cherry and Casinoeuro monthly's too attractive. I mean, 30% bonus with EV of $24 or so, how do you guys play it? I assume something like $10 a hand trying to run it up big?

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The software is superfast. If you play small bets, it clears in less than half an hour.
If you play big bets, EV is slightly higher and it clears even faster of course. Higher chance of going busto, but it shouldn't worry you if you have enough BR.

Auren
08-04-2006, 01:54 PM
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Auren,

If the loss rate on a $30,000WR is .2-.4%, that would be a loss of $60-$120, which would still seem acceptable on a $500 bonus.

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You are right. I messed with decimals and counted with 2% loss rate. So if blackjack rules are good enough it can be profitable. Of course you need luck too since after that 30k you need to double up.

swedeD
08-04-2006, 02:27 PM
I play with bigger bets at casino's with monthly bonuses, sometimes I bust out. I think that can help you to not getting banned. I usually also coverplay different games for a few days after I have cleared the bonus.

But, as someone already mentioned, if they investigate your account they will probably first of all look at if you have withdrawn more money than you have deposited. But to avoid getting investigated, I think it can be good to let the money be in the account for some days /weeks, and also play different games and sometimes bust out.

Auren
08-04-2006, 03:58 PM
I think there is quite easy ways to see if someone is just bonus abusing or not. If people wager 100-120% of bonus reqs, if 90% of their wagering is at low wagers compared to bankroll, if they only play low variance or low house edge games etc etc... If all these are filled for couple bonuses then player is prolly just after bonuses. And it is extremely hard to hide that kind of statistics with any kind of cover play.