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thomasperfecto
08-01-2006, 09:50 AM
I have to clear another $150 before I can withdraw. They've removed Jack or Better, Aces & Faces and a couple of others. The only Vp games left are some some sh!ty ones they created with terrible pay tables. Also they wont allow to play BJ to clear the last $150 the TAF.

Can anyone tel me how I work out the return on a pay table like this one....
Royal flush 1000
Straight flush 100
Four of a kind 50
Full House 10
Flush 6
Straight 4
Three of a kind 2
Two pair 1
Ace pair 1
Nonpaying hand 0

I'd play 3CP but it's $5 min and don't want to chance it.

TomR
08-01-2006, 11:06 AM
The payout on that paytable is only 74.7% with about twice the variance of a normal JoB (99.5%) full paytable. (I bought WinPoker and it does some great paytable analysis as well as helping to know what to hold). But the 74.7% doesn't take into account the bonus round payouts. The only way I can think of to try to quantify the value of the bonus rounds is to play ALOT of the game in free play and keep good stats of the bonus payouts (if you can assume the bonus payouts are consistent between play and real).

I started a buddy on casino whoring recently and after playing some of their VP in free play mode I passed on the RAF bonus at Planet and Starluck because I didn't think it was worth the risk for him for the relatively small bonus he would get (he was starting with a small bankroll and didn't want to reload).

If you are stuck doing this I think 3CP is the way to go but the variance may kill you or hopefully pay off for you. Good luck.

Little_Luck
08-01-2006, 12:23 PM
Play 3cp only on the ante line, not the pair plus. Call with Q64 or better. It's your best shot for the combination of HA and variance for TAF. I think we figured out the SL/PL video poker machines carried around a 3-5pct HA. Although we can't figure it out for sure due to the weird bonus system.

E.Z.
08-01-2006, 01:18 PM
this is for TAF's corect?? i see no info on website to confirm or deny the sign up bonus (games allowed)

hogua
08-01-2006, 01:39 PM
Another bonus killed by over whoring. This is why telling/teaching people about casino whoring is bad.

Thremp
08-01-2006, 06:10 PM
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Another bonus killed by over whoring. This is why telling/teaching people about casino whoring is bad.

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Blah blah blah I'm a nit.

kyleb
08-01-2006, 06:22 PM
The OP must be mistaken:

Any deposit that qualifies for a sign up bonus (together the "Total Matched Deposits") must be wagered 8 times ( Players from Israel ,Poland and China would have to wager 24 times; Players from Denmark would have to wager 16 times) before cashout. TOTAL MATCHED DEPOSITS CAN NOT BE USED FOR WAGERING AT THE CRAPS, ROULETTE, AND BACCARAT TABLES UNTIL THE WAGERING RESTRICTION IS MET.

http://www.planetluck.com/planetluck/english/currentpromotions.html

The terms are the same on Starluck. So, it's still good. And here I was, thinking it was the end of an era!

thomasperfecto
08-02-2006, 04:41 AM
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The OP must be mistaken:

Any deposit that qualifies for a sign up bonus (together the "Total Matched Deposits") must be wagered 8 times ( Players from Israel ,Poland and China would have to wager 24 times; Players from Denmark would have to wager 16 times) before cashout. TOTAL MATCHED DEPOSITS CAN NOT BE USED FOR WAGERING AT THE CRAPS, ROULETTE, AND BACCARAT TABLES UNTIL THE WAGERING RESTRICTION IS MET.

http://www.planetluck.com/planetluck/english/currentpromotions.html

The terms are the same on Starluck. So, it's still good. And here I was, thinking it was the end of an era!

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I'm talking about the RAF.
However, if you deposit $100, get $100 signup bonus + $25 RAF bonus. You can play BJ for 1600 hands to meet the deposit bonus requirement but you must then wager $150 at 3CP to clear the RAF.
My bro was down to $200 playing BJ when he cleared the 1600 hands. He then lost the lost trying to clear the $25 playing 3CP.
I think you will be better off not taking the RAF or trying to get it once you've cashed out.